My guest this week is Dan Gutstein, author of ‘Poor Gal: The Cultural History of Little Liza Jane’, which traces the history of one of America’s most recorded songs, from its origins amongst enslaved people on southern plantations to the folk revival and beyond.

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My guest this week is Darol Anger, one of the leading lights of progressive string band music over the last 50 years. We’re chatting about 'Mr Sun Plays Duke Ellington’s Nutcracker', which feels very appropriate as we enter holiday season!

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