then they're stuck on cinnamon with no real wayland support and just get mad when their combination of an old lts kernel + old drivers + x11 session lead to things like vrr not working.

i feel like the advice people give is rooted 10 years in the past. there's functionally no difference between distros or installing them, but people keep recommending distros like mint to people with brand new hardware. a win11 escapee isn't going to even understand what a two year old kernel is.

one of my favorites, 2012