These columns where the voters just do a wiki writeup on who their voting for rather than their reasoning + those who were close to getting a vote.
These columns where the voters just do a wiki writeup on who their voting for rather than their reasoning + those who were close to getting a vote.
Helton & Rolen are the only two such cases in the few years we have had since the years of crowded ballots. Helton jumped 13% and 15% in years 2&3, while Rolen jumped 18% and 17% in years 3&4. Both made it in yr 6.
Helton & Rolen are the only two such cases in the few years we have had since the years of crowded ballots. Helton jumped 13% and 15% in years 2&3, while Rolen jumped 18% and 17% in years 3&4. Both made it in yr 6.
Whether those benefits will come in time for Buehrle is to be seen.
Whether those benefits will come in time for Buehrle is to be seen.
And no, this is not a small hall voter. He voted for Adrian Gonzales.
And no, this is not a small hall voter. He voted for Adrian Gonzales.
I meant in the case of Johan that he fell off the ballot more due to a crowded ballot where most likely did not even consider him than just him being not likeable, even if that could have still saved him.
I meant in the case of Johan that he fell off the ballot more due to a crowded ballot where most likely did not even consider him than just him being not likeable, even if that could have still saved him.
In terms of votes, Santana competed with 18 guys who had enough merit to either get in the HOF or stay on the ballot long enough despite PEDs. Wright's debut had 8-11 such guys. That is a lot more room to throw a vote to a player like Wright.
In terms of votes, Santana competed with 18 guys who had enough merit to either get in the HOF or stay on the ballot long enough despite PEDs. Wright's debut had 8-11 such guys. That is a lot more room to throw a vote to a player like Wright.
If your case cannot convince most of the big hall voters to make room, induction is unlikely.
If your case cannot convince most of the big hall voters to make room, induction is unlikely.
That ballot will be HOFers + players who didnt/wont get in bc of PED or other controversy.
That ballot will be HOFers + players who didnt/wont get in bc of PED or other controversy.
Beltran 18x
Pettite & Utley 13x
Jones 12x
A-Rod 11x
Manny 10x
Abreu 6x
Felix 4x
Buehrle 3x
Rollins & Wright 2x
Pedroia & Vizquel & K-Rod 1x
9 had 10 vote ballots and all with 6x or fewer wil likely gain.
Beltran 18x
Pettite & Utley 13x
Jones 12x
A-Rod 11x
Manny 10x
Abreu 6x
Felix 4x
Buehrle 3x
Rollins & Wright 2x
Pedroia & Vizquel & K-Rod 1x
9 had 10 vote ballots and all with 6x or fewer wil likely gain.
I would assume K-Rod and Rollins are the two additional votes if not for the limit.
I would assume K-Rod and Rollins are the two additional votes if not for the limit.
Also, as you said, it will not really matter for his induction.
Also, as you said, it will not really matter for his induction.
Felix, Hamels and Buehrle are 8th, 11th and 12th in fWAR since 2000. If not them, then who will be an HOF pitcher after Verlander and company retire?
Felix, Hamels and Buehrle are 8th, 11th and 12th in fWAR since 2000. If not them, then who will be an HOF pitcher after Verlander and company retire?
This does make it seem like he has an arbitrary max of 3-4 the last few years with a lot of drops and adds throughout the years.
This does make it seem like he has an arbitrary max of 3-4 the last few years with a lot of drops and adds throughout the years.
There were TEN other HoFers on that 2017 ballot (also Bonds, Clemens, Schilling) and SEVEN more joined the ballot in those 3 yrs
There were TEN other HoFers on that 2017 ballot (also Bonds, Clemens, Schilling) and SEVEN more joined the ballot in those 3 yrs
15 holdovers, of which 5 were only on 12% or fewer ballots last year and the next few years will bring the competition back up a bit as well.
15 holdovers, of which 5 were only on 12% or fewer ballots last year and the next few years will bring the competition back up a bit as well.