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I’m curious what you see as caricature or escalation.

Obviously I’m not saying Eli is zionist. just that it was my initial first impression to them nodding along so it stood out bc of the Che profile pic.

otherwise I’m clarifying bc they seemed to take the equation of 🔻 with 10/7 at face value?
July 13, 2025 at 6:08 AM
The possibility is a good way to put it. I’m often pessimistic when experience suggests it but I like to speak in a way that would surface a good faith difference of opinion if it existed.
July 13, 2025 at 5:23 AM
I’m glad to hear that but I’m sure you understand context (the parent post) and why it might have looked that way.

Anyway only the first was directed at you, the rest just used it as a jumping off point.

cheers
July 13, 2025 at 5:15 AM
took me a while to realize you were running with his deranged frame … my initial reaction was … Zionist Che???? god help us all.
(There’s a Zionist John brown on here who got ran off twitter for insisting the Israelis are the victims in the whole conflict lmao)
July 13, 2025 at 5:08 AM
It’s interesting how you seem to be able to distinguish between being a realistic option and endorsement of every particular here.

In any case, you realize the red triangle isn’t used to indicate support for 10/7 right?
July 13, 2025 at 5:06 AM
That’s very nice but it’s not a war crime to shoot IDF soldiers in Gaza. bsky.app/profile/baro...
the red triangle isn't even primarily an October 7 thing though? I recall it getting big in reference to when Hamas was posting FPS-style cams of themselves sniping IDF soldiers. like it was a targeting indicator in video posted by Hamas for publicity.
July 13, 2025 at 5:05 AM
Oh 100% and theophite still repeats unsubstantiated propaganda (if u don’t buy it, you love rape and beheading babies etc) but in this case he’s just crashing out lol.

The red triangle is used for videos of Hamas mercing IDF in Gaza

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the red triangle isn't even primarily an October 7 thing though? I recall it getting big in reference to when Hamas was posting FPS-style cams of themselves sniping IDF soldiers. like it was a targeting indicator in video posted by Hamas for publicity.
July 13, 2025 at 5:04 AM
Can you point to where I said otherwise? I’m sorry but why are you all indulging theophite jacking himself off.
1. The red triangle is used in videos of Hamas mercing IDF in Gaza. As moral an act as one gets
2. I was responding to his recommendation to “viciously beat up” people who use that symbol
July 13, 2025 at 5:02 AM
Yes but also this is beside the point because the triangle isn’t related to 10/7?

bsky.app/profile/baro...
the red triangle isn't even primarily an October 7 thing though? I recall it getting big in reference to when Hamas was posting FPS-style cams of themselves sniping IDF soldiers. like it was a targeting indicator in video posted by Hamas for publicity.
July 13, 2025 at 4:54 AM
You’re absolutely right. It’s kinda bizarre how a certain contingent reacts about the triangle when it’s exclusively used in these videos of IDF getting merced in Gaza. (Something theophite claims to support!)

Are you expecting honesty from theophite tho lol?
July 13, 2025 at 4:53 AM
If he has any friends remaining I’d encourage them to check in on him. It’s really not normal to respond to mild disagreement with these rants shadow boxing against people he imagines he’s talking to. (Assadists? Tankies? Salafists lmao? Unclear)
July 13, 2025 at 4:46 AM
Anyway, in this case the discussion was about whether FLN’s atrocities (that I neither endorse nor support) were appropriate to locate as the primary cause of Algeria’s political dysfunction post liberation.

Theophite prefers to project fantasies of snapping children’s necks. (???)
July 13, 2025 at 4:44 AM
I’m sure there’s plenty of people who do but I’d appreciate getting credit for things I say (or believe incidentally) rather than what theophite feels like making up in one of his rants about how everyone to his left is masturbating to genocide etc.

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Are you people alright? There seems to be a fundamental inability to conceive of disagreement on a claim about a causal relation … as anything other than endorsement of everything FLN/Hamas/Hezbollah does.

I could have sworn theophite shared the Mamdani quote about suicide bombers lol
July 13, 2025 at 4:39 AM
Is Ben Bella synonymous with or representative of the FLN to you?

Just to be clear btw I’m talking about pre-Evian FLN only throughout. Bc we’re discussing how that influenced the post war Algerian state (with FLN one party rule)
July 13, 2025 at 4:15 AM
*rather than the methods being a result
July 13, 2025 at 3:53 AM
Your premise is that the FLN was limited in its scale only by its means rather than being a *result* (which, for the slow of cognition does not mean it is either correct or justified)
of asymmetry in means.
July 13, 2025 at 3:53 AM
I’m talking about historical causality not moral responsibility (which I agree with you on)
July 13, 2025 at 3:51 AM
do u think the agent primarily responsible is the FLN or the French govt lol? Be serious.
July 13, 2025 at 3:43 AM
Extremely brutal colonial rule involving mass murder, displacement and impoverishment as well as repression of moderate reformers created the conditions for much less brutal (yet still quite brutal) nationalist groups that used similar methods on a much smaller scale. No shit that had bad results?
July 13, 2025 at 3:42 AM
Citation please?
July 13, 2025 at 3:34 AM
did you mean to say “intentionally elevated its worst butchers” or “a couple of leaders known to be ruthless rose to roles of power”?
it’s so interesting how you seem to have this rage where the actually existing (and very real!) flaws aren’t enough.

You need the FLN to be the SS or IDF lol.
July 13, 2025 at 3:34 AM
How did the lack of any inherited civil institutions because the French dismantled indigenous political structures to impose colonial top down rule at the time of independence play into it?

What about the role of oil being central to the Algerian economy?
July 13, 2025 at 3:29 AM
Why are you sephiroth posting when we’re having a conversation about history lol?

Did they mass murder all civil society groups or did they have a brutal reciprocal exchange of murdering figures within rival nationalist orgs, followed by subordinating civil society groups?
July 13, 2025 at 3:24 AM
Do you seriously believe what you just said or are u counting on saying “he likes killing kids” as a response when I point out how sloppy ur post is?

Do you think I support the fratricidal civil war between rival nationalist orgs that the FLN won?

Was it intentional elevation or structural?
July 13, 2025 at 3:21 AM
Normally when someone misreads “FLN atrocities weren’t the proximate cause of Algeria’s issues post liberation” as “I love killing kids” I assume it’s malice rather than stupidity.

In this case I’m having doubts because you sound like you’re having a blood pressure spike over the guy you made up.
July 13, 2025 at 3:06 AM