Andrew Gabriel Rose
@andrewgabrielrose.bsky.social
Humanities lecturer.
We produce art and culture like coral produces a reef. It's involuntary and unstoppable. If all of it burns, we'll make more.
We produce art and culture like coral produces a reef. It's involuntary and unstoppable. If all of it burns, we'll make more.
I sent you to the same org that made the chart you're using. The org that chose 2019-23 to intentionally mute the effects of 2020-21 which nevertheless persist.
November 13, 2025 at 3:23 AM
I sent you to the same org that made the chart you're using. The org that chose 2019-23 to intentionally mute the effects of 2020-21 which nevertheless persist.
You can’t treat 2023 as if it represents a clean comparison with 2019 when the workforce itself changed permanently during those years.
November 13, 2025 at 12:33 AM
You can’t treat 2023 as if it represents a clean comparison with 2019 when the workforce itself changed permanently during those years.
The chart you're using covers 2019–2023, so it includes the pandemic distortion you’re dismissing. The composition shock didn’t just vanish after 2021. It reshaped the low end of the labor market.
November 13, 2025 at 12:33 AM
The chart you're using covers 2019–2023, so it includes the pandemic distortion you’re dismissing. The composition shock didn’t just vanish after 2021. It reshaped the low end of the labor market.
Again, the appearance of high wage-growth at the 10th percentile wasn't from low-wage workers getting raises; it was from many low-wage jobs disappearing.
Stop trying to defend Joe Biden's legacy. It's a millstone around the Dems' necks.
Stop trying to defend Joe Biden's legacy. It's a millstone around the Dems' necks.
November 13, 2025 at 12:21 AM
Again, the appearance of high wage-growth at the 10th percentile wasn't from low-wage workers getting raises; it was from many low-wage jobs disappearing.
Stop trying to defend Joe Biden's legacy. It's a millstone around the Dems' necks.
Stop trying to defend Joe Biden's legacy. It's a millstone around the Dems' necks.
A National Bureau of Economic Research working paper (that only covers the first month of the pandemic) finds employment rates for workers in the bottom quartile wage category fell about 37% by mid-April 2020, vs ~14% for the top quartile.
www.nber.org/system/files...
www.nber.org/system/files...
www.nber.org
November 13, 2025 at 12:21 AM
A National Bureau of Economic Research working paper (that only covers the first month of the pandemic) finds employment rates for workers in the bottom quartile wage category fell about 37% by mid-April 2020, vs ~14% for the top quartile.
www.nber.org/system/files...
www.nber.org/system/files...
A Congressional Research Service report shows that industries with average hourly wages below about $28 accounted for ~81% of job losses for the period.
www.congress.gov/crs_external...
www.congress.gov/crs_external...
www.congress.gov
November 13, 2025 at 12:21 AM
A Congressional Research Service report shows that industries with average hourly wages below about $28 accounted for ~81% of job losses for the period.
www.congress.gov/crs_external...
www.congress.gov/crs_external...
Less than 75 % of workers in the bottom 25 % of the wage distribution (in 2019) were still working in 2020; whereas more than 90 % of high-wage workers were still employed.
November 13, 2025 at 12:21 AM
Less than 75 % of workers in the bottom 25 % of the wage distribution (in 2019) were still working in 2020; whereas more than 90 % of high-wage workers were still employed.
Here's some evidence:
“Wages grew in 2020 because the bottom fell out of the low-wage labor market”
www.epi.org/publication/...
“Wages grew in 2020 because the bottom fell out of the low-wage labor market”
www.epi.org/publication/...
Wages grew in 2020 because the bottom fell out of the low-wage labor market: The State of Working America 2020 wages report
What this report finds:
Wages grew historically fast between 2019 and 2020—6.9% for the typical or median worker—but not for good reasons.
Wages grew largely because more than 80% of the 9.6 mill...
www.epi.org
November 13, 2025 at 12:21 AM
Here's some evidence:
“Wages grew in 2020 because the bottom fell out of the low-wage labor market”
www.epi.org/publication/...
“Wages grew in 2020 because the bottom fell out of the low-wage labor market”
www.epi.org/publication/...
Basic illustration:
These people have an average of 4 peanuts:
Dan: 10 nuts
Tru: 1 nut
Ric: 1 nut
Stef: 4 nuts
Elle: 4 nuts
When Tru & Ric leave, the average becomes 6.
Now Ted, Lev, & Den join the group with 6 nuts each; the average stays inflated at 6, but Tru & Ric are still gone (unemployed).
These people have an average of 4 peanuts:
Dan: 10 nuts
Tru: 1 nut
Ric: 1 nut
Stef: 4 nuts
Elle: 4 nuts
When Tru & Ric leave, the average becomes 6.
Now Ted, Lev, & Den join the group with 6 nuts each; the average stays inflated at 6, but Tru & Ric are still gone (unemployed).
November 13, 2025 at 12:16 AM
Basic illustration:
These people have an average of 4 peanuts:
Dan: 10 nuts
Tru: 1 nut
Ric: 1 nut
Stef: 4 nuts
Elle: 4 nuts
When Tru & Ric leave, the average becomes 6.
Now Ted, Lev, & Den join the group with 6 nuts each; the average stays inflated at 6, but Tru & Ric are still gone (unemployed).
These people have an average of 4 peanuts:
Dan: 10 nuts
Tru: 1 nut
Ric: 1 nut
Stef: 4 nuts
Elle: 4 nuts
When Tru & Ric leave, the average becomes 6.
Now Ted, Lev, & Den join the group with 6 nuts each; the average stays inflated at 6, but Tru & Ric are still gone (unemployed).
Higher wage jobs don't have to replace anything. The average jumps up immediately when the low-income workers are removed from the account.
November 13, 2025 at 12:16 AM
Higher wage jobs don't have to replace anything. The average jumps up immediately when the low-income workers are removed from the account.
It's time to accept that you don't know what you're talking about and pay attention.
*Your* narrative is false *and* counterproductive. Whether it's a lie or a mistake, it makes people fuckin' furious with Democrats to be told to ignore their own lives and just believe the party.
*Your* narrative is false *and* counterproductive. Whether it's a lie or a mistake, it makes people fuckin' furious with Democrats to be told to ignore their own lives and just believe the party.
November 12, 2025 at 7:40 PM
It's time to accept that you don't know what you're talking about and pay attention.
*Your* narrative is false *and* counterproductive. Whether it's a lie or a mistake, it makes people fuckin' furious with Democrats to be told to ignore their own lives and just believe the party.
*Your* narrative is false *and* counterproductive. Whether it's a lie or a mistake, it makes people fuckin' furious with Democrats to be told to ignore their own lives and just believe the party.
I'm not saying the workers all died. I'm saying 80% of the jobs that disappeared were low-wage jobs. When they disappeared, the income average of the *newly re-formed* (even "growing") 10th percentile instantly jumped up. It had nothing to do with any workers receiving wage increases, period.
November 12, 2025 at 7:40 PM
I'm not saying the workers all died. I'm saying 80% of the jobs that disappeared were low-wage jobs. When they disappeared, the income average of the *newly re-formed* (even "growing") 10th percentile instantly jumped up. It had nothing to do with any workers receiving wage increases, period.
Jesus Christ. You're making *the same category error.*
If the overall number of employed people increases after a shock, each percentile can "grow" even if the bottom end of the distribution was hollowed out & recomposed differently, skewing the income numbers higher.
Mortality is irrelevant.
If the overall number of employed people increases after a shock, each percentile can "grow" even if the bottom end of the distribution was hollowed out & recomposed differently, skewing the income numbers higher.
Mortality is irrelevant.
November 12, 2025 at 7:40 PM
Jesus Christ. You're making *the same category error.*
If the overall number of employed people increases after a shock, each percentile can "grow" even if the bottom end of the distribution was hollowed out & recomposed differently, skewing the income numbers higher.
Mortality is irrelevant.
If the overall number of employed people increases after a shock, each percentile can "grow" even if the bottom end of the distribution was hollowed out & recomposed differently, skewing the income numbers higher.
Mortality is irrelevant.
How is that relevant?
November 12, 2025 at 3:41 AM
How is that relevant?
You can't use stats like this to show that "everything is fine" when what they are actually illustrating was a disaster for poor people. Even tho not everyone will be able to parse the flaws of that graph like I have here, they *experienced* the unemployment.
November 11, 2025 at 1:26 AM
You can't use stats like this to show that "everything is fine" when what they are actually illustrating was a disaster for poor people. Even tho not everyone will be able to parse the flaws of that graph like I have here, they *experienced* the unemployment.
80% of those who lost their jobs in 2020 came from the bottom 25% of the wage distribution. Those low wage workers *disappeared from the count,* instantly raising the average income *by losing their jobs.*
November 11, 2025 at 1:26 AM
80% of those who lost their jobs in 2020 came from the bottom 25% of the wage distribution. Those low wage workers *disappeared from the count,* instantly raising the average income *by losing their jobs.*
Anyone who lost their job in 2020 simply disappears from the wage distribution the 10th percentile is calculated from. The chart you’re citing is actually showing how badly poor workers were hit.
November 11, 2025 at 1:26 AM
Anyone who lost their job in 2020 simply disappears from the wage distribution the 10th percentile is calculated from. The chart you’re citing is actually showing how badly poor workers were hit.
That's a category error my guy. The labor force can grow overall and the number of extremely low-wage workers can fall — both are true. Whether the country added five million engineers has nothing to do with two million dishwashers getting knocked out of the dataset.
November 11, 2025 at 1:26 AM
That's a category error my guy. The labor force can grow overall and the number of extremely low-wage workers can fall — both are true. Whether the country added five million engineers has nothing to do with two million dishwashers getting knocked out of the dataset.
There was no Biden-era decrease in wealth inquality, period. Stop.
November 10, 2025 at 11:05 AM
There was no Biden-era decrease in wealth inquality, period. Stop.
The graph doesn't show poor workers earning more, it shows poor workers disappearing from the count.
November 10, 2025 at 11:00 AM
The graph doesn't show poor workers earning more, it shows poor workers disappearing from the count.
It's a statistical mirage. The 10th percentile spiked because millions of the lowest-paid workers got wiped out of the dataset in 2020. If you delete the lowest rungs of a ladder, the ‘bottom’ suddenly looks higher.
November 10, 2025 at 11:00 AM
It's a statistical mirage. The 10th percentile spiked because millions of the lowest-paid workers got wiped out of the dataset in 2020. If you delete the lowest rungs of a ladder, the ‘bottom’ suddenly looks higher.
(Apologies for the delayed reply; I don't check bsky enough)
November 2, 2025 at 11:56 PM
(Apologies for the delayed reply; I don't check bsky enough)
Sure, I get it. But Fetterman was never even pretending to be as far left as Platner is, and years of candid message board posts show the development of a very radical (in a good way) progressive worldview. Posts which were part of the same wave of oppo leaks as the tattoo pics.
November 2, 2025 at 11:56 PM
Sure, I get it. But Fetterman was never even pretending to be as far left as Platner is, and years of candid message board posts show the development of a very radical (in a good way) progressive worldview. Posts which were part of the same wave of oppo leaks as the tattoo pics.
So, to be clear, you think this is what's happening?
October 27, 2025 at 5:53 PM
So, to be clear, you think this is what's happening?
Oh brother where art thou kinda did the yellow thing same year and matrix did a blue/green thing. Not to contradict just to complement your point that ya don't see it much since the, uh, fin de siecle
October 26, 2025 at 3:53 AM
Oh brother where art thou kinda did the yellow thing same year and matrix did a blue/green thing. Not to contradict just to complement your point that ya don't see it much since the, uh, fin de siecle