andershove.bsky.social
@andershove.bsky.social
Clean energy research on China. From Missoula, MT. All posts my own. Post information. Mostly positive. Not very much. On LinkedIn, Bluesky, not Twitter
It was an honor to join this excellent podcast to discuss how China became dominant in clean energy manufacturing!
April 4, 2025 at 6:26 AM
What enables that? Three things: (1) a huge market, (2) massive R&D – BYD has 100,000 R&D employees – Ford has 160,000 total employees worldwide – and (3) less effort wasted trying to keep selling gas cars and waiting for when the customer is ready. To compete in China, you cannot just wait and see.
March 24, 2025 at 9:52 AM
The number and frequency of new technology announcements from the Chinese players, combined with the number of price-competitive and high-quality new models, usually ready for the market instead of just far-away concepts, really emphasizes China’s market lead.
March 24, 2025 at 9:52 AM
The other thing pointed out by the bloggers: Have you noticed how this technology is not coming from Ford, GM or VW?
March 24, 2025 at 9:52 AM
Especially if it’s coming from BYD, a low-cost automaker, perhaps this will push more competing carmakers to focus on fast charging and improving the fast charging experience for users, even if they can’t offer 5-minute charging.
March 24, 2025 at 9:52 AM
After checking the EV podcasts and blogs, I realized that the 5-minute charging headlines have really captured imaginations. Perhaps this type of headline does help bring people to EVs who might not otherwise be interested. Perhaps it does change the narrative.
March 24, 2025 at 9:52 AM
5. The recent Consumer Reports study makes clear, consumers are fed up with the poor quality of fast charging – broken screens, clunky payment, etc. I would rather have reliable and ubiquitous fast charging than a handful of high-priced 1 MW chargers.
March 24, 2025 at 9:52 AM
4. Most people charge at home or work. Small breaks on road trips are normal. In my trips, 10-15 minutes to add 50% of range would be fine, provided fast charging is widely available and reliable. Which it’s not!
March 24, 2025 at 9:52 AM
3. It’s not just the high cost that will limit the numbers. The grid cannot handle multiple 1 MW chargers just anywhere. Sudden spikes in charging load cost the grid more, meaning higher ‘demand charges’ that will also be passed on to consumers.
March 24, 2025 at 9:52 AM
2. It obviously increases the convenience of road trips, but that depends on how many there are. There are very few 200 and 300 kW chargers now. I expect these ultra-ultra-fast chargers to be even more rare, even in places with lots of EVs.
March 24, 2025 at 9:52 AM
1. The cost of installing chargers scales with charging power. Users should expect the price to go up as companies seek to recoup those costs. They may need to charge over Euro 1/kWh – a huge premium to gasoline. www.wired.com/story/byd-5-...
BYD's 5-Minute EV Charging Sounds Great. But How Useful Is it?
Fast charging is viable, but experts say building the actual charging stations will be the tricky—and potentially very expensive—part.
www.wired.com
March 24, 2025 at 9:52 AM
Here are 5 reasons I am sceptical about the latest announcements:
March 24, 2025 at 9:52 AM
In terms of what’s typical today, most DC fast charging offers speeds of 50 kW or 120 kW. There are starting to be more chargers installed that do better. Tesla V3 is 250 kW and Ionity and several other networks offer 300-350 kW.
March 24, 2025 at 9:52 AM