Dan Carkner
alte.klezmor.im
Dan Carkner
@alte.klezmor.im
Klezmer music history researcher, library technician from Vancouver BC. Doing research into klezmer musician biographies & immigration, Indonesian left-wing history, music manuscripts, compositions & copyright etc. Wikipedia editor. Social justice minded.
he says the dance genre of sirba/hasapiko/kasap was associated with that trade & was played by Greek&Roma musicians to salute heavily armed Romanian ranchers on their entry to Istanbul with the cattle🥺 he traces a link between it and the klezmer bulgar dance & Israeli hora
November 18, 2025 at 4:30 AM
another angle, the klezmer researcher Walter Zev Feldman has this whole transnational music theory he calls the Pastrami Trail about the connection between Greco-Turkish and Klezmer-Moldavian music dating back to the 1600s when the Ottomans imposed a cattle tribute from Moldavia to Istanbul
November 18, 2025 at 4:30 AM
maybe you're getting to it but Rothfarb too (couple minor musician figures in my research with that family name)
November 17, 2025 at 9:39 PM
never heard of this candidate before today so we'll see the tone as the campaigning continues I guess.
November 17, 2025 at 7:00 PM
I wasn't born here, but I can see it as a fairly harmless antidote to the NIMBY discourse of affluent Vancouverites wanting nothing to change and loudly wishing for the pre expo 86 vancouver within earshort of those of us they consider arrivistes
November 17, 2025 at 6:43 PM
another library angle would be to email the reference people at NYPL Dorot division with this question. even if you're not local they have a huge amount of knowledge
www.nypl.org/locations/sc...
Dorot Jewish Division
www.nypl.org
November 17, 2025 at 6:06 PM
I love how every article on this site starts with the same optimistic lines

"At the beginning of the 20th century, Europe is living in peace and prosperity. The “Belle Époque” is an outgrowth of previous important historical events and developments."
November 17, 2025 at 1:38 AM
My friend reminded me that this excellent Greek music site has an entry on this tune, mentioning a long list of Greek, Romanian and Jewish versions 👀
I Vlacha
Part of the content is temporarily available only in Greek
vmrebetiko.gr
November 17, 2025 at 1:18 AM
Reposted by Dan Carkner
if you're in Vancouver and want to learn this tune (probably a middle complexity one similar to the one Kandel played above), come on out to our monthly event
😜
KlezWest Monthly Klezmer Jam | Peretz Centre
Join a jam session of klezmer music hosted with KlezWest (all instruments and musicians welcome)
www.peretz-centre.org
November 14, 2025 at 9:11 PM
Into it though
November 15, 2025 at 12:12 AM
I forget if it was a dentist or what, but a klezmer musician I know once had to see a backup specialist in NYC when their usual wasn't available and during chitchat the person said "Oh, you're a klezmer musician? My grandfather was a klezmer musician, his name was Wolf Kostakowsky, heard of him?"🫡
November 14, 2025 at 11:41 PM
Josh Horowitz edited it into a new edition 20 years ago and published it as The Ultimate Klezmer, but sadly it seems to be out of print. a single copy for sale on amazon for $454.92🫣
"The Ultimate Klezmer", Klezmer book review by Pete Rushefsky
a review of the Ultimate Klezmer, by Wolff Kostakowsky, arranged and edited by Josh Horowitz, published by Tara Publications, 2001
www.klezmershack.com
November 14, 2025 at 11:37 PM