Áine
aine1312.bsky.social
Áine
@aine1312.bsky.social
Anarcha-nihilist trans lesbian who does art and shit sometimes
It's probably not true, but it would be funny if it were generational hindenberg disaster trauma
February 11, 2026 at 11:02 PM
Which is why Shin Megami Tensei is accctually the best mon (the mon is silent and stands for de-mon)
But (if I'm the sample size for this opinion) that may be a take only loved by mythology nerds who are almost 40
January 7, 2026 at 1:18 PM
I dunno if any TV is worth watching, but for these, though I've not seen them, I'm kinda like, whatever happens to the rich people as comeuppance or whatever, who wants to spend that much time thinking about and mythologizing the rich?

same vibe as media for people hyped about royalty.
January 2, 2026 at 1:39 AM
I don't even know what you mean by It and I still am like, "ya probably". But who knows! Anything's possible! Both hope and hopelessness are pointless and mean nothing.
January 1, 2026 at 12:01 AM
Now this stint as a woman plays an important part in Tiresias' role as the seer of Thebes. In nearly all other cases, oracles, soothsayers, and prophets, are women. I think it is no mistake that the only man called on to always make accurate predictions (to my knowledge) is the one who was a woman.
December 31, 2025 at 5:21 PM
Were it another man, he would be struck dead, or worse, but tiresias' mother is a muse, and is tight with Athena. She convinces Athena to instead make Tiresias a woman, so that it could remain true that no man lived who saw Athena bathing.
December 31, 2025 at 5:18 PM
In the case of tiresias, the most consistent explanation I found for Tiresias' transition, was this: Tiresias as a young man hears something intriguing and nouminus and follows the sound. This leads him to stumble onto the spring Athena is bathing in. This is something men are not allowed to see.
December 31, 2025 at 5:18 PM
In other stories of gender transition in Greek myth, it is more common for the gods (usually Hera, Leto, Athena or Artemis) to make women into men.
December 31, 2025 at 5:18 PM
Now Ovid said that Tiresias was punished by being turned into a woman, because he interrupted these two snakes fucking. And in the Indian myth he's pulling from, the person who separates the copulating snakes is rewarded, with the ability to do some sort of soothsaying. What do the greeks say?
December 31, 2025 at 5:09 PM
The grass snake, causing it to flee. The pretty snake slithers off, and then after an interval, the snake comes back and reveals herself to be more or less a snake princess and for intervening in the grass snake's attempt to rape her, she gives him a reward.
December 31, 2025 at 5:03 PM
Colorful one, nearly indescribable in its beauty, and the common grass snake pestering it. (* need to look up who in the original Indian myth has this experience. But Not yet looking at my notes.) Tiresias* sees that the pretty snake is not happy about what's going on, and uses his staff to strike
December 31, 2025 at 5:03 PM
Staff, interrupting their fucking, and is punished for it. (I forget by who, probably Hera at this rate)

Now this diverges from the contemporary Indian myth it's clearly drawn from in all but the premise. In the myth, unbutchered by Roman distortions, Tiresias sees the snakes, the brilliant,
December 31, 2025 at 5:03 PM
Various myths from southeast Asia had been making their way into Roman mythology, much the way they took the Greek gods in whole and renamed them.

As Ovid would tell it, tiresias saw a brilliant colorful snake in the grass, fucking with a common brown snake. Tiresias strikes the snakes with his
December 31, 2025 at 5:03 PM
The roman source (Ovid I think) blames Tiresias' transition, *cough* I mean transformation into a woman, on an altercation with a snake. This is, pretty clearly, interrelated with an Indian myth which is being borrowed here (rome loved "borrowing"). At the time, via trade and Roman expansion,
December 31, 2025 at 5:03 PM
I took the roman sources into account but where they diverged from the Greeks, stuck to those. I also leaned towards info present in plays by Euripides or Sophocles, I (I don't believe any of the aescylus plays that would have likely had tiresias in then survived)
Mostly cause I love plays.
December 31, 2025 at 4:48 PM
Now, stories of how he became a woman in the first place are more muddled. For my interpretation I read some philological commentary about the event, read the roman sources, and read what few Greek sources there were. (Well read in translation. I know, what a casual re classics).
December 31, 2025 at 4:48 PM
For agreeing with Zeus, that women feel greater pleasure, Hera strikes him blind.
(I don't recall exactly the wording but it was along the lines of "if pleasure has ten parts, man feels but one part and woman 9", I'm sure it's said prettier but that's as close as I can get off the top of my head)
December 31, 2025 at 4:41 PM
He was stricken blind in part because of his experience as a woman. He was asked to decide an intractable argument between Zeus and Hera over whether men or women feel greater (sexual) pleasure. Having known both sides of the experience, they ask Tiresias. Hera doesn't like his answer.
December 31, 2025 at 4:41 PM
He is old at the start of Thebes, and even then, his seven years of womanhood are far behind him, the daughter he birthed (also a seer) is already grown.
December 31, 2025 at 4:41 PM
Tiresias is present for the founding of Thebes (this is brought up in Euripides Bachae, in which Tiresias and Cadmus, the first king of thebes crossdress in order to go and propitiate the new god Dionysus.) and is also present at Thebes's fall, some seven generations later.
December 31, 2025 at 4:41 PM
Tiresias is one of the only male seers in the classics, so much so that in some cases later writers may have just called male soothsayers Tiresias like it was a title. However there are enough consistencies in character and usage that a singular Tiresias still peeks through.
December 31, 2025 at 4:41 PM
I even wrote a play (which needs another edit and is unlikely to get produced unless I suddenly get struck by the muses again).

But for this thread, here are some interesting things that I learned in my research. It's not useful but someone may enjoy the fruit of my obsessions.
December 31, 2025 at 4:41 PM
All or nearly all of my favorite classics are plays set in Thebes, and thus, I'd run into the character of Tiresias often, but it wasn't until this year that I learned of his seven years as a woman. This fact fascinated me enough that I ended up searching out every surviving text with Tiresias in it
December 31, 2025 at 4:41 PM
One of my all time favorites. Re-read it recently. You'll have a blast I think! It's a quick read. If ya like it and ain't read the anarchist tension, that shit rips too.
December 30, 2025 at 6:25 PM