The point is they shouldn’t be involved in talks with a Russian puppet. And the sooner European governments and People truly take up a step forward these foolish initiatives can stop

As much as I agree with your final expletive on the problem, it’s not just the Politicians. Living in one of the largest countries of Europe, I would say that a majority of European people don’t want to open their eyes - it’s apathy not appeasement.

I have to question your point- If you tried this in business outside of the”Mob mind” of the likes of Trump the person sitting opposite you would walk away, probably permanently. As a very educated person your rationalisation of this person and those around him is astonishing.

Many of us here in Europe would certainly agree that we need to look hard at our own defence spending, however I felt that this point in your post this evening was almost a deflection to move the story away from what Trump continues to do for his personal agenda which doesn’t support Ukraine at all

Across Europe we have some of the best minds and industries that would help create a formidable force if we could just come together even a little

As a Brit I hope we realise even with all the issues with Brexit that our politicians and people can understand that we need to have the strength at hand to support ourselves here in our own backyard.

Sometimes it’s truly hard to believe that here in Europe out political class still can’t seem to grasp the nettle that we really need to look deeply at our own security. Then again, looking around this also seems to apply to many normal citizens

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There are a number of politicians that should think closely on these words, especially with the state of the world at the moment

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