say thatttt

I don't really believe that AI will become conscious anytime soon but I do believe that humans constantly find new ways to exert their dominance over literally everything.

It's from this op-ed btw: www.nytimes.com/2025/11/08/o...

i’m with you. also the way big tech and the media are talking about AI as one thing makes it nearly impossible for people to tell the difference between real, specific AI tools and slop machines

I am not in fact crazy. They original did not have that paragraph!!

archive.ph/kR7GV

but if the conversation has become "well if they werent plowing that land for soy, they'd be doing it for something else" then you're in a mental justification space that is fully shut down and i can't have an honest conversation with you about it.

but the story is specifically about the economic drive for soy which is driven by the incentive to produce animal feed.

listen, i can recognize cognitive dissonance when i see it. i get that you're a small animal agriculture business so you feel attacked. but im concerned with big ag. not you.

Ah ya that's a common myth/justification for the system but the value of the oil vs the meal flip back and forth. Plenty of the time, the meal is actually valued significantly higher than the oil.

The idea that the meal is just some "waste" product is a myth

southernagtoday.org/2021/10/25/w...

would you say that it is correct to say that "70-80% of the global soybean supply becomes animal feed" ?

so then we entirely agree on the numbers??

you're just arguing that the primary driver is to create soybean oil? and not animal feed?

are you okay friend? i've given you like 4 or 5 different sources at this point (and you've provided zero) so it seems like you're experiencing some pretty severe cognitive dissonance

here's the source chainreactionresearch.com/report/feed-...

ya 98% of all soybean meal is animal feed. that doesn't change the fact that 70-80% of global soy production is for animal feed.

here's a visual of brazil's domestic soy production. you can see that the largest flow BY FAR is the soybean to crushing to soymeal to animal feed to human consumption.

wait they fully just added that it. i did searches for the words "meat" and "animal" and got nothing. and then i refreshed the page and the paragraph is there. i feel like im going crazy

biodiesel is about 4% and vegetable oil is about roughly 13%

hope this helps! but ya- i know the numbers are shocking

Nah fam it's 77% going to animal feed according to The European Food Information Council (www.eufic.org/en/food-prod...)

70% in the US according to the FDA (www.eufic.org/en/food-prod...)

75% worldwide according to the WWF (www.wwf.org.uk/updates/soy-...)

so ya... it's between 70-80%

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It's hard to find honest framing in the media around anything climate/animal agriculture related. This one is to the point though

news.mongabay.com/2019/01/braz...