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2. I will pay no IHT or very little. Despite working hard all my life on a salary of £30k (quoted as family farmers earnings) paid a mortgage (not live in an inherited farmhouse). My car is not a business expense nor run on farm diesel. Increased my inheritance 11x - can family farmers say that?
December 30, 2025 at 7:23 AM
2. I will pay no IHT or very little. Despite working hard all my life on a salary of £30k (quoted as family farmers earnings) paid a mortgage (not live in an inherited farmhouse). My car is not a business expense nor run on farm diesel. Increased my inheritance 11x - can family farmers say that?
And you are arguing from sentiment rather than recognising that concentrating wealth in fewer hands leads to hardship for others. 62% of the agricultural output from this country is produced on 33% of the land- predominantly larger farms. You are arguing to preserve an inefficient way of farming.
December 30, 2025 at 6:38 AM
And you are arguing from sentiment rather than recognising that concentrating wealth in fewer hands leads to hardship for others. 62% of the agricultural output from this country is produced on 33% of the land- predominantly larger farms. You are arguing to preserve an inefficient way of farming.
But they need funds to do it. And IHT is an income stream. I agree IHT will not solve the poverty crisis, but neither will denying ways of collecting revenue based upon sentiment rather than need. As mentioned before, I doubt many children on family farms are part of the 4.5m in poverty/going hungry
December 30, 2025 at 6:32 AM
But they need funds to do it. And IHT is an income stream. I agree IHT will not solve the poverty crisis, but neither will denying ways of collecting revenue based upon sentiment rather than need. As mentioned before, I doubt many children on family farms are part of the 4.5m in poverty/going hungry
2. Are you seriously saying that family farming is the only bulwark against substandard meat? What percentage of UK meat production comes from such farms? If Australian meat can be competitive with all the extra transport costs, does it not indicate our farmers are not as efficient?
December 29, 2025 at 6:20 PM
2. Are you seriously saying that family farming is the only bulwark against substandard meat? What percentage of UK meat production comes from such farms? If Australian meat can be competitive with all the extra transport costs, does it not indicate our farmers are not as efficient?
But a rounding error that would lift some children out of poverty.
And why is it only beneficial for those you name - if a child sells because he/she is not interested in farming why should they pay less tax than the child selling a family commercial business?
No one is forced to eat US etc meat.
And why is it only beneficial for those you name - if a child sells because he/she is not interested in farming why should they pay less tax than the child selling a family commercial business?
No one is forced to eat US etc meat.
December 29, 2025 at 6:13 PM
But a rounding error that would lift some children out of poverty.
And why is it only beneficial for those you name - if a child sells because he/she is not interested in farming why should they pay less tax than the child selling a family commercial business?
No one is forced to eat US etc meat.
And why is it only beneficial for those you name - if a child sells because he/she is not interested in farming why should they pay less tax than the child selling a family commercial business?
No one is forced to eat US etc meat.
But it was only driven up in value because of the advantageous tax position. If a business is uneconomic, should society subsidise them? Do we subsidise failing pubs I doubt many children of farmers are among the 4.5m living in poverty - some of whom could have a better life if standard IHT was paid
December 29, 2025 at 2:37 PM
But it was only driven up in value because of the advantageous tax position. If a business is uneconomic, should society subsidise them? Do we subsidise failing pubs I doubt many children of farmers are among the 4.5m living in poverty - some of whom could have a better life if standard IHT was paid
My father was an electrician. Does that mean I should have become one as well? Are the children of farmers forced to follow their parents?. I agree that having been raised on a farm they may like the life. But children who want to continue family businesses have to pay standard IHT- why not farmers?
December 29, 2025 at 9:37 AM
My father was an electrician. Does that mean I should have become one as well? Are the children of farmers forced to follow their parents?. I agree that having been raised on a farm they may like the life. But children who want to continue family businesses have to pay standard IHT- why not farmers?
Alternatively -,does the fact that meat raised on the other side of the world with all the added transportation costs perhaps indicate that farmers here are not as efficient/competitive on prices? I honestly do not know the answer but on first glance it appears a reasonable deduction?
December 28, 2025 at 10:52 PM
Alternatively -,does the fact that meat raised on the other side of the world with all the added transportation costs perhaps indicate that farmers here are not as efficient/competitive on prices? I honestly do not know the answer but on first glance it appears a reasonable deduction?
Why? Why should wanting a ‘lifestyle’ differentiate you? Food production is essential - but does it have to be done by someone who wants a ‘lifestyle’? Why are ‘family’ farms different from non family farms - they both produce food?
December 28, 2025 at 1:50 PM
Why? Why should wanting a ‘lifestyle’ differentiate you? Food production is essential - but does it have to be done by someone who wants a ‘lifestyle’? Why are ‘family’ farms different from non family farms - they both produce food?
Not envy - just do not see why they are treated differently to children who carry on a family commercial business. If those children struggle to make ends meet - having paid the standard rate of inheritance tax - they can still sell the business. Why, just because you farm, are you a special case?
December 28, 2025 at 11:14 AM
Not envy - just do not see why they are treated differently to children who carry on a family commercial business. If those children struggle to make ends meet - having paid the standard rate of inheritance tax - they can still sell the business. Why, just because you farm, are you a special case?
I would still prefer the option of realising £2m if my livelihood was under threat rather than trying to survive on £40k.
Luckily they have an option the majority of us could only dream of. Still if they want to sell up and give me £2m, I will pass my inheritance in return.
Luckily they have an option the majority of us could only dream of. Still if they want to sell up and give me £2m, I will pass my inheritance in return.
December 28, 2025 at 11:00 AM
I would still prefer the option of realising £2m if my livelihood was under threat rather than trying to survive on £40k.
Luckily they have an option the majority of us could only dream of. Still if they want to sell up and give me £2m, I will pass my inheritance in return.
Luckily they have an option the majority of us could only dream of. Still if they want to sell up and give me £2m, I will pass my inheritance in return.
My heart really bleeds for people who inherit farms worth over £2m. My personal inheritance was less than £40k. Want to swap?
December 27, 2025 at 8:06 PM
My heart really bleeds for people who inherit farms worth over £2m. My personal inheritance was less than £40k. Want to swap?
Disposal: The average "retirement" or end of a hunting hound's life is typically around 5 to 6 years of age. A significant number are routinely killed each year when they are no longer fit for the rigors of the hunt, or because the hunt cannot afford to keep non-working dogs. Very few are rehomed
December 26, 2025 at 4:53 PM
Disposal: The average "retirement" or end of a hunting hound's life is typically around 5 to 6 years of age. A significant number are routinely killed each year when they are no longer fit for the rigors of the hunt, or because the hunt cannot afford to keep non-working dogs. Very few are rehomed
Wrong -England & Wales)
Data released by the National Police Chiefs' Council (NPCC) for "group-based" child sexual abuse in 2023 provides the most recent overview:
White: 83% (rising to 85% in the first three quarters of 2024)
Asian: 7%
Black 5%
Data released by the National Police Chiefs' Council (NPCC) for "group-based" child sexual abuse in 2023 provides the most recent overview:
White: 83% (rising to 85% in the first three quarters of 2024)
Asian: 7%
Black 5%
December 20, 2025 at 6:21 PM
Wrong -England & Wales)
Data released by the National Police Chiefs' Council (NPCC) for "group-based" child sexual abuse in 2023 provides the most recent overview:
White: 83% (rising to 85% in the first three quarters of 2024)
Asian: 7%
Black 5%
Data released by the National Police Chiefs' Council (NPCC) for "group-based" child sexual abuse in 2023 provides the most recent overview:
White: 83% (rising to 85% in the first three quarters of 2024)
Asian: 7%
Black 5%
2. And I doubt a judge will ‘retire’ to consider his verdict for many hours - and, of course, there will be no need for him to refresh himself of the evidence. From my 20 years of experience a 5 day trial at present could be reduced to 2 days - a massive saving of court time
December 4, 2025 at 9:13 AM
2. And I doubt a judge will ‘retire’ to consider his verdict for many hours - and, of course, there will be no need for him to refresh himself of the evidence. From my 20 years of experience a 5 day trial at present could be reduced to 2 days - a massive saving of court time
I have watched the video. Remember the contributor’s have a vested financial interest I trials. Ann Soubury ignores that a trial before a legally qualified person will stop a lot of prolonged ‘waffle’ by defence barristers as the judge will be better placed to decide which facts are relevant.
December 4, 2025 at 9:10 AM
I have watched the video. Remember the contributor’s have a vested financial interest I trials. Ann Soubury ignores that a trial before a legally qualified person will stop a lot of prolonged ‘waffle’ by defence barristers as the judge will be better placed to decide which facts are relevant.
But it would stop the upward projectory of cases in the future.
December 3, 2025 at 1:36 PM
But it would stop the upward projectory of cases in the future.
How many of those saying it is fundamental to our system have actually been in a Crown Court? I attended at for 20 years and despaired at defendants playing the system - inconveniencing witnesses, wasting the time of jury panels by pleading guilty at the last moment just to keep remand privileges.
December 3, 2025 at 1:35 PM
How many of those saying it is fundamental to our system have actually been in a Crown Court? I attended at for 20 years and despaired at defendants playing the system - inconveniencing witnesses, wasting the time of jury panels by pleading guilty at the last moment just to keep remand privileges.
In a magistrates court
December 3, 2025 at 8:16 AM
In a magistrates court
Not sure they were joking
November 26, 2025 at 10:23 PM
Not sure they were joking
By ‘commit’ I mean either pleads guilty or is convicted.
November 26, 2025 at 10:58 AM
By ‘commit’ I mean either pleads guilty or is convicted.
Sorry - no idea what argument - if any - you are advancing.
November 26, 2025 at 10:56 AM
Sorry - no idea what argument - if any - you are advancing.
Yes they are - serving time does not expunge your criminal record. If a man is convicted of rape and does his custodial sentence - does that mean he is not a rapist? Anyone who commits a crime is a ‘criminal’
November 26, 2025 at 10:55 AM
Yes they are - serving time does not expunge your criminal record. If a man is convicted of rape and does his custodial sentence - does that mean he is not a rapist? Anyone who commits a crime is a ‘criminal’
Not what I am saying at all. That is why a defendant’s previous convictions are not disclosed to the jury prior to a guilty verdict - if they find NG his/her criminal record is never read out. But if a man has committed a crime previously, he is a criminal. Facing a new charge does not change that
November 21, 2025 at 1:44 PM
Not what I am saying at all. That is why a defendant’s previous convictions are not disclosed to the jury prior to a guilty verdict - if they find NG his/her criminal record is never read out. But if a man has committed a crime previously, he is a criminal. Facing a new charge does not change that
But that would not apply to the current caseloads. Take this example - someone hoping to go into the armed forces is charged with theft - whether a magazine or £1m - a conviction could prevent that - hence the right to be ‘tried by your peers’ - how would you grade that?
November 20, 2025 at 7:04 PM
But that would not apply to the current caseloads. Take this example - someone hoping to go into the armed forces is charged with theft - whether a magazine or £1m - a conviction could prevent that - hence the right to be ‘tried by your peers’ - how would you grade that?