Katie Hoeberling
@shrubberling.bsky.social
Dir. of Policy Initiatives at https://openenvironmentaldata.org/ (opinions my own)
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Here are a few new friends and owners of our Community Data Playbook zines, plus a shot of Karen Edelstein talking about @fractracker.bsky.social and @envirointegrity.bsky.social's Oil & Gas Watch mapping project. Find our playbook at zenodo.org/records/1528...
July 9, 2025 at 11:42 PM
Here are a few new friends and owners of our Community Data Playbook zines, plus a shot of Karen Edelstein talking about @fractracker.bsky.social and @envirointegrity.bsky.social's Oil & Gas Watch mapping project. Find our playbook at zenodo.org/records/1528...
I'm here repping @openenvirodata.bsky.social
If you're here, come talk policy strategy, community-led data governance, or anything open science/source with me!
If you're here, come talk policy strategy, community-led data governance, or anything open science/source with me!
July 9, 2025 at 11:41 PM
I'm here repping @openenvirodata.bsky.social
If you're here, come talk policy strategy, community-led data governance, or anything open science/source with me!
If you're here, come talk policy strategy, community-led data governance, or anything open science/source with me!
… with freedom of thought + expression for everyone on the other. But I think, at least for now, that this nuance is totally possible. And resisting terfs like jr could benefit from bringing the current fandom along, not least because it’s given so many queer + trans ppl the space to be ourselves
May 12, 2025 at 10:28 PM
… with freedom of thought + expression for everyone on the other. But I think, at least for now, that this nuance is totally possible. And resisting terfs like jr could benefit from bringing the current fandom along, not least because it’s given so many queer + trans ppl the space to be ourselves
Of course it’s trickier when the artist actively wields power/influence to harm a group like trans people. And I understand what’s going on in the UK (+ arguably here in the US) makes it difficult rn to hold both needs for immediate safety + the right to exist for a vulnerable group on the one hand…
May 12, 2025 at 10:27 PM
Of course it’s trickier when the artist actively wields power/influence to harm a group like trans people. And I understand what’s going on in the UK (+ arguably here in the US) makes it difficult rn to hold both needs for immediate safety + the right to exist for a vulnerable group on the one hand…
If you dig around long enough, you’ll find a lot of artists have harmed people in ways you don’t condone. But a person’s relationship to that art is their own, and you’re going to hit a lot of walls telling people to ‘just find something better’ which this thread is full of
May 12, 2025 at 10:26 PM
If you dig around long enough, you’ll find a lot of artists have harmed people in ways you don’t condone. But a person’s relationship to that art is their own, and you’re going to hit a lot of walls telling people to ‘just find something better’ which this thread is full of
The hp fandom—at least who I tend to interact w/—is very aware of what a pos jr is, and debates ethical interaction. I don’t think you’re giving us enough credit, and I’d really like to believe in and build a world where we can create our own shit *and* intentionally not support people who harm us
May 12, 2025 at 10:25 PM
The hp fandom—at least who I tend to interact w/—is very aware of what a pos jr is, and debates ethical interaction. I don’t think you’re giving us enough credit, and I’d really like to believe in and build a world where we can create our own shit *and* intentionally not support people who harm us
I guess I’m just trying to share my perspective as someone who reads fanfic and hasn’t contributed a cent to Rowling in years. And I know there are many many people like me.
May 12, 2025 at 10:23 PM
I guess I’m just trying to share my perspective as someone who reads fanfic and hasn’t contributed a cent to Rowling in years. And I know there are many many people like me.
Yes, fan content (and to be clear, I’m specifically talking about fic and fanart) contributes to a fandom, and brings attention. But does it really create material harm for trans ppl? From a harm reduction framing, it’s also building a safe space—often for queer people—to create and find community.
May 12, 2025 at 10:06 PM
Yes, fan content (and to be clear, I’m specifically talking about fic and fanart) contributes to a fandom, and brings attention. But does it really create material harm for trans ppl? From a harm reduction framing, it’s also building a safe space—often for queer people—to create and find community.
This is super helpful, thanks! I see your point (I think I saw it before), but I still just dont agree that fanfiction is “shoveling money” into rowling’s pockets.
May 12, 2025 at 10:04 PM
This is super helpful, thanks! I see your point (I think I saw it before), but I still just dont agree that fanfiction is “shoveling money” into rowling’s pockets.
I’m not a lawyer. And the point I was trying to make is that fan-created content, while technically IP, sure, cannot legally generate revenue. So any material profit would be indirect.
May 11, 2025 at 9:18 PM
I’m not a lawyer. And the point I was trying to make is that fan-created content, while technically IP, sure, cannot legally generate revenue. So any material profit would be indirect.
I’d love to see the regulation you’re referring to. I’ve never heard of anything close to this. Fanart is illegal if you profit off it, but most do not
May 11, 2025 at 9:10 PM
I’d love to see the regulation you’re referring to. I’ve never heard of anything close to this. Fanart is illegal if you profit off it, but most do not
I do hang out with trans people and you might be surprised by how many trans people write hp fic. Seriously. How engaged in fandom (hp or otherwise) are you? You might think differently if you interacted with creators
May 11, 2025 at 9:09 PM
I do hang out with trans people and you might be surprised by how many trans people write hp fic. Seriously. How engaged in fandom (hp or otherwise) are you? You might think differently if you interacted with creators
Im confused. I thought you all were recommending a boycott of Rowling IP?
April 17, 2025 at 11:36 PM
Im confused. I thought you all were recommending a boycott of Rowling IP?
I disagree, that’s not how IP works (I work on IP policy btw). It *is* about the money. Every time you stream you pay an artist (pennies). Every time you read fanfic, you pay no one. I think it’s totally possible to engage with a fandom without supporting the IP.
April 17, 2025 at 11:34 PM
I disagree, that’s not how IP works (I work on IP policy btw). It *is* about the money. Every time you stream you pay an artist (pennies). Every time you read fanfic, you pay no one. I think it’s totally possible to engage with a fandom without supporting the IP.
I’m not shocked. And I really think we’re on the same side. I don’t want to support Rowling at all. I also disagree that engaging w/ fan created things supports her. It’s a tenuous connection at best. + I replied elsewhere but it risks alienating people who could make a real difference thru boycott
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April 17, 2025 at 11:24 PM
I’m not shocked. And I really think we’re on the same side. I don’t want to support Rowling at all. I also disagree that engaging w/ fan created things supports her. It’s a tenuous connection at best. + I replied elsewhere but it risks alienating people who could make a real difference thru boycott
Again, difference between fan-created things (which cannot legally be profited from by anyone) and paying for things whose profits go to Rowling.
April 17, 2025 at 11:21 PM
Again, difference between fan-created things (which cannot legally be profited from by anyone) and paying for things whose profits go to Rowling.
Ok imagine this tho: mobilizing the thousands (millions?) of fans who create fic and art to stop watching the movies, buying the books, going to the parks, etc. that’s a ton of ppl and a ton of collective power that could really hurt her. Do we really want to alienate those people?
April 17, 2025 at 11:20 PM
Ok imagine this tho: mobilizing the thousands (millions?) of fans who create fic and art to stop watching the movies, buying the books, going to the parks, etc. that’s a ton of ppl and a ton of collective power that could really hurt her. Do we really want to alienate those people?
I think there’s a big difference between not wanting to hang out and telling people what they should or should not read/watch/etc. (Also lots of ppl read that reasons other than supporting nazis—understanding historical fascism is helpful for combating ongoing fascism.)
April 17, 2025 at 11:16 PM
I think there’s a big difference between not wanting to hang out and telling people what they should or should not read/watch/etc. (Also lots of ppl read that reasons other than supporting nazis—understanding historical fascism is helpful for combating ongoing fascism.)
I disagree w/ a lot of this. I publicly disavow what Elon Musk is doing in the US. Does that mean I'm advertising for tesla? I think there's a real danger here in alienating a large (v. queer + often trans) group of allies who find joy in this stuff + could be mobilized to combat transphobic policy
April 17, 2025 at 9:59 PM
I disagree w/ a lot of this. I publicly disavow what Elon Musk is doing in the US. Does that mean I'm advertising for tesla? I think there's a real danger here in alienating a large (v. queer + often trans) group of allies who find joy in this stuff + could be mobilized to combat transphobic policy
Even if the fandom only interacts with itself and nothing she creates? I think the beauty of fanfic and fanart is that the ideas, which may have originated with the author, no longer belong to them; they belong to the fandom who gets to adapt them and claim them for themselves
April 17, 2025 at 9:55 PM
Even if the fandom only interacts with itself and nothing she creates? I think the beauty of fanfic and fanart is that the ideas, which may have originated with the author, no longer belong to them; they belong to the fandom who gets to adapt them and claim them for themselves
Yeah, I'm saying you can engage in the fandom without paying her *anything*
April 17, 2025 at 9:53 PM
Yeah, I'm saying you can engage in the fandom without paying her *anything*