and Alie, I'll also take this opportunity to say how incredible you are. An amazing science communicator, a wonderful podcaster, and from what I've seen over years of watching your shows and listening to Ologies, clearly a very special person. Thank you for being you!

... and I have nothing to say to the people who support them for whatever selfish or bigoted or deluded reasons. As fascism rears it's ugly head in America, it's past the time to "be the bigger person".

I personally think that "being the bigger person" is overrated. Right now I'm terrified, for myself, my children and other family members, for my country and for the world. I'm not interested in apologizing for believing that these hate mongers are just bad people -- even evil, in some cases -- ...

Both Jarrett and you stay safe!