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🔞ROUS He/Him/They/Them. Occasional Writer. History nerd. Furry of the Sizey Variety. Please don't follow if under 18🔞 or if you're averse to adult or macro furry art. I'm gonna be reposting that stuff.
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And the pro-AI side tends to want to sweep every problem under the rug, entirely. So, there's not much use in trying to reach across the aisle ^^;
November 12, 2025 at 3:11 AM
And the pro-AI side tends to want to sweep every problem under the rug, entirely. So, there's not much use in trying to reach across the aisle ^^;
Still, I'm glad to have had this conversation so far! It's good to be challenged and get some pushback sometimes. My friend circle is mostly in agreement on these issues so there's not much push.
November 12, 2025 at 3:11 AM
Still, I'm glad to have had this conversation so far! It's good to be challenged and get some pushback sometimes. My friend circle is mostly in agreement on these issues so there's not much push.
As for how AIs learn, I'm still unsure if I agree entirely. I think it is necessarily different than a human mind, but I'm also willing to concede that I don't have much in the way of counter argument. I'm not an AI expert, it just seems like the process is different on some level.
November 12, 2025 at 3:11 AM
As for how AIs learn, I'm still unsure if I agree entirely. I think it is necessarily different than a human mind, but I'm also willing to concede that I don't have much in the way of counter argument. I'm not an AI expert, it just seems like the process is different on some level.
I'm still not convinced, but I'd much rather be having a conversation about AI without the tech companies being involved at all.
November 12, 2025 at 3:11 AM
I'm still not convinced, but I'd much rather be having a conversation about AI without the tech companies being involved at all.
I think there'd still be issues. Copy writers and graphic designers may still be cut out of some work, and it wouldn't really solve the use of LLMs to produce misinformation, but overall I'd much rather AI be a huge, consensual co-op than content farms for the corporations.
November 12, 2025 at 3:04 AM
I think there'd still be issues. Copy writers and graphic designers may still be cut out of some work, and it wouldn't really solve the use of LLMs to produce misinformation, but overall I'd much rather AI be a huge, consensual co-op than content farms for the corporations.
The non-consensual scraping of images and text is definitely a huge moral concern for me, and if we make it so corporations can't profit off of the art that's generated, that removes another major issue I have with it.
November 12, 2025 at 3:04 AM
The non-consensual scraping of images and text is definitely a huge moral concern for me, and if we make it so corporations can't profit off of the art that's generated, that removes another major issue I have with it.
Honestly, that's not a bad way to go. I'm still not convinced that AI would do more good than harm, but removing corporate control and -especially- making it opt-in would be huge strides toward positive change.
November 12, 2025 at 3:04 AM
Honestly, that's not a bad way to go. I'm still not convinced that AI would do more good than harm, but removing corporate control and -especially- making it opt-in would be huge strides toward positive change.
The technology can be used for good things. Medical analysis is often brought up. I just think right now, it's often used for misinformation and further exploitation of creatives. And we should probably try to do something about that.
Despite differences, I think we're ultimately on the same team.
Despite differences, I think we're ultimately on the same team.
November 12, 2025 at 12:43 AM
The technology can be used for good things. Medical analysis is often brought up. I just think right now, it's often used for misinformation and further exploitation of creatives. And we should probably try to do something about that.
Despite differences, I think we're ultimately on the same team.
Despite differences, I think we're ultimately on the same team.
I do think this is a more nuanced issue than most give it credit for, as with most things. And while I fall on the "Anti-AI" side of things, I don't want to just wave the banner for my side. I think open discussion in good faith is the healthy way to go about things, when it can be had.
November 12, 2025 at 12:43 AM
I do think this is a more nuanced issue than most give it credit for, as with most things. And while I fall on the "Anti-AI" side of things, I don't want to just wave the banner for my side. I think open discussion in good faith is the healthy way to go about things, when it can be had.
Honestly, I really appreciate your own openness and patience with me. While I have negative opinions of AI, the one thing I don't want is those opinions to be is entirely emotional, and being challenged is an important part of making sure there's logic backing up my opinions, too.
November 12, 2025 at 12:43 AM
Honestly, I really appreciate your own openness and patience with me. While I have negative opinions of AI, the one thing I don't want is those opinions to be is entirely emotional, and being challenged is an important part of making sure there's logic backing up my opinions, too.
I'll admit I'm a stickler for giving credit where it is due, when it's at all possible.
The word "citation" might be a bit more formal than I intended, but I have a background in History, so it felt natural to me xD
The word "citation" might be a bit more formal than I intended, but I have a background in History, so it felt natural to me xD
November 12, 2025 at 12:43 AM
I'll admit I'm a stickler for giving credit where it is due, when it's at all possible.
The word "citation" might be a bit more formal than I intended, but I have a background in History, so it felt natural to me xD
The word "citation" might be a bit more formal than I intended, but I have a background in History, so it felt natural to me xD
-- which should be taken into account, at least on a case-by-case basis. The artists certainly weren't compensated for their labor, there, and they should have been if they contributed.
November 12, 2025 at 12:43 AM
-- which should be taken into account, at least on a case-by-case basis. The artists certainly weren't compensated for their labor, there, and they should have been if they contributed.
With AI pulling so many sources, its impossible to give proper attribution to them all. Duchamp used one source. That AI commercial coke generated used countless source images and videos to compile what they prompted. And in that instance, it was to make the company money --
November 12, 2025 at 12:43 AM
With AI pulling so many sources, its impossible to give proper attribution to them all. Duchamp used one source. That AI commercial coke generated used countless source images and videos to compile what they prompted. And in that instance, it was to make the company money --
On Duchamp, I think the difference here is that it's generally obvious that he was using another work, and easy to trace what specific work he was using for his art.
November 12, 2025 at 12:43 AM
On Duchamp, I think the difference here is that it's generally obvious that he was using another work, and easy to trace what specific work he was using for his art.
-- don't invalidate the point. Not on their own, for sure.
November 12, 2025 at 12:43 AM
-- don't invalidate the point. Not on their own, for sure.
While I generally encourage people to practice writing on their own, for example, I know conditions like dyslexia or ADHD can make that difficult (believe me, I know. I'm the latter!), and I think that's about the most ethical way to use generated text. I still don't... like it, but my feelings --
November 12, 2025 at 12:43 AM
While I generally encourage people to practice writing on their own, for example, I know conditions like dyslexia or ADHD can make that difficult (believe me, I know. I'm the latter!), and I think that's about the most ethical way to use generated text. I still don't... like it, but my feelings --
-- continue that argument further. I just don't have the words for it!
I agree that AI is just a tool, but I do think that tool is causing a lot of harm, right now.
Thank you for bringing up accessibility, though. I think that is an often ignored part of the "pro" argument.
I agree that AI is just a tool, but I do think that tool is causing a lot of harm, right now.
Thank you for bringing up accessibility, though. I think that is an often ignored part of the "pro" argument.
November 12, 2025 at 12:43 AM
-- continue that argument further. I just don't have the words for it!
I agree that AI is just a tool, but I do think that tool is causing a lot of harm, right now.
Thank you for bringing up accessibility, though. I think that is an often ignored part of the "pro" argument.
I agree that AI is just a tool, but I do think that tool is causing a lot of harm, right now.
Thank you for bringing up accessibility, though. I think that is an often ignored part of the "pro" argument.
Whether or not AI can be considered to be inspired or not, is something I'm not really equipped to tackle fully. I don't believe it really is. I think it's using the products of artist's labor to generate works that it could otherwise not produce, but I'll concede that I'm not really able to --
November 12, 2025 at 12:43 AM
Whether or not AI can be considered to be inspired or not, is something I'm not really equipped to tackle fully. I don't believe it really is. I think it's using the products of artist's labor to generate works that it could otherwise not produce, but I'll concede that I'm not really able to --
New mediums have seldom killed the old. Except maybe tablets and scrolls. Yeah, sorry, scribes...
November 12, 2025 at 12:43 AM
New mediums have seldom killed the old. Except maybe tablets and scrolls. Yeah, sorry, scribes...
and neither will artists. In fact, I think when that bubble finally bursts, a lot of their problems will go away. Without data centers, their art is much less likely to be scraped, their livelihoods less likely to be under threat, etc.
AI is not very profitable, and that's a good thing.
AI is not very profitable, and that's a good thing.
November 12, 2025 at 12:43 AM
and neither will artists. In fact, I think when that bubble finally bursts, a lot of their problems will go away. Without data centers, their art is much less likely to be scraped, their livelihoods less likely to be under threat, etc.
AI is not very profitable, and that's a good thing.
AI is not very profitable, and that's a good thing.
I think that bubble is going to burst, though.
AI images and text for personal use is never going away. Not at this point, and its ultimately less of an issue. I still don't like it, and I encourage people to support artists, instead, but I don't honestly think it will ever just disappear
AI images and text for personal use is never going away. Not at this point, and its ultimately less of an issue. I still don't like it, and I encourage people to support artists, instead, but I don't honestly think it will ever just disappear
November 12, 2025 at 12:43 AM
I think that bubble is going to burst, though.
AI images and text for personal use is never going away. Not at this point, and its ultimately less of an issue. I still don't like it, and I encourage people to support artists, instead, but I don't honestly think it will ever just disappear
AI images and text for personal use is never going away. Not at this point, and its ultimately less of an issue. I still don't like it, and I encourage people to support artists, instead, but I don't honestly think it will ever just disappear