Another Victim of the Ambient Morality
redhuitzli.bsky.social
Another Victim of the Ambient Morality
@redhuitzli.bsky.social
It’s all those damn trackers and ads, the JavaScript for them, then the site loading
December 22, 2024 at 12:31 PM
It’s always fun to ask someone what makes a nation-state collecting personal data different from a private company that collects personal data and sells it to a nation state
December 19, 2024 at 2:23 PM
You don’t break laws because you fear punishment. I don’t break laws because I’m not an asshole.

We’re not the same
December 13, 2024 at 8:14 PM
So your argument wasn’t about the 1A issue this whole time? This was all about you being contrarian?

Should’ve said so from the beginning!
December 11, 2024 at 11:50 PM
I, as a non-tiktok user, do not have less free speech than a tiktok user.

If that was the case the gov would have to guarantee me access to the app.

The argument that Americans 1A rights are restricted by time, place, or manner by losing tiktok is absurd.
December 11, 2024 at 11:10 PM
Whats not clear to me, is that you’ve said it’s a 1A concern but have yet to say who’s 1A rights are possibly being infringed on.

It seems like you got a motte and Bailey situation going on every time I’m asking for clarification.
December 11, 2024 at 6:56 PM
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December 11, 2024 at 5:35 PM
So after reading this, are your concerns the 1A rights of tiktok?

Because moderation and algorithms is solely the domain of the company itself.
December 11, 2024 at 6:32 PM
Correct me if I’m wrong.

But it seems you’re conflating free speech absolutism, with 1A.

1A doesn’t guarantee you the means of communication. It guarantees that the government can’t prevent you from speaking.
December 11, 2024 at 1:01 PM
I am familiar with the phrase. So in that context:

Speech isn’t being targeted based on content.

The government has significant interest, because spying.

It’s narrowly tailored, they aren’t banning all socials.

And their are alternatives channels of communication. Other social sites and media
December 11, 2024 at 12:53 PM
I don’t think your example is analogous to what’s going on here.
December 11, 2024 at 4:47 AM
I think the real argument is whether there is evidence of spying at all. I’ll concede that.

But for the sake of argument, let say there is evidence of Chinese spying.

What are those 1A implications? You’ve yet to clearly articulate what those are.
December 11, 2024 at 4:45 AM
The real American stories in the paper are in no way limited to tiktok. Nothing is preventing people from publishing in multiple papers, making a video, or podcast.

There is no 1A issue.
December 11, 2024 at 4:39 AM
Your example isn’t analogous to what’s being discussed.

To use a newspaper as an example. What the US gov is arguing is that tiktok, the newspaper, is a front so it’s journalists (algorithms) can spy for China.
December 11, 2024 at 4:34 AM
TikTok is a private company.

Your argument is analogous to saying the government should ensure the paper and pen factory remain open so you can write.

1A doesn’t provide or ensure the means of speech. It’s only Meant to guarantee the government won’t infringe upon it.
December 11, 2024 at 4:23 AM
The 1A implications aren’t “obvious” which is why I’m asking you to explain it.

You would have no less speech the day after TikTok is banned than from the day prior.
December 11, 2024 at 4:16 AM
The CCP is hostile and routinely steals and is caught attempting to steal, government, military, corporate, and advance research. It’s also actively conducting cyber attacks so yes, they are a threat to the US, not just it’s government.
December 11, 2024 at 4:07 AM
I explicitly said foreign agents in my example, which is different from plain foreigners, and US citizens.

Foreign agents act for foreign governments.
December 11, 2024 at 4:00 AM
Look, are you going to play games? Or are you going to explain why banning TikTok is a 1A issue?

I’ve personally been trying to understand the 1A argument since the proposed ban became an issue.
December 11, 2024 at 3:56 AM
I think it may have been the change of pace from the Canterbury tale structure to the fast paced climax of Fall, to endymnion’s more straightforward story with new characters.

My experience was years ago, so I may try again when I get the chance.
December 11, 2024 at 3:51 AM
No clue. I’m just playing along.
December 11, 2024 at 3:45 AM
All I’m seeing is that you said that the government is setting a precedent to limit speech without evidence.

Am I wrong?

I plain disagree with the “limiting speech” part. Which is why I asked how?
December 11, 2024 at 3:43 AM
Yes I make a delectable batch of chocolate chip cookies
December 11, 2024 at 3:41 AM
Yes, you are correct. And I’m not being facetious.
December 11, 2024 at 3:39 AM