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Gilliam
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Progressive and inclusive Democrat that prefers to be around people that mean what they say… and dogs… mostly dogs. 💙
(11/11)
And if they can get enough Republicans on board - which is more possible than it was even just a week ago - they will save the subsidies
"So, I think we need to back off of the condemnation and attacks and shift our focus toward what we can do to help the Democrats get the Republican votes.”
November 10, 2025 at 10:24 PM
(10/11)
“The bottom line is that the subsidies were going to end in December, no matter what the Dems did. But now, if this deal goes through, if they do end, it will be because the Republicans voted not to extend them, not because they quietly went away.
November 10, 2025 at 10:24 PM
(9/11)
“7. If the Democrats can get enough Republicans votes to save the subsidies, that will be a huge win.
"8. If the Republicans stand firm and vote no, THEY will own the expiration of the subsidies, not the Democrats.
November 10, 2025 at 10:24 PM
(8/11)
“6. While it is possible that every Republican will vote no, it is possible that the Dems could peel off enough Republicans to vote to extend the subsidies. It would only take a couple and if they put the pressure on over the next few weeks, that could actually happen.
November 10, 2025 at 10:24 PM
(7/11)
“5. By exacting an agreement from Thune for a vote to extend the subsidies, the Democrats are now forcing the Republicans to AFFIRMATIVELY end the subsidies rather than just letting them die a natural death. Republicans will have to go on record, while every Democrat can be voting YES.
November 10, 2025 at 10:24 PM
(6/11)
“And this would have happened without the Republicans having to do anything and bearing no responsibility for the subdidies' disappearance.
"4. When the subsidies disappeared in December, people who are affected would have blamed the Democrats, not the Republicans.
November 10, 2025 at 10:24 PM
(5/11)
the subsidies would have gone away, the Dems would have gotten nothing, and people would have suffered an extended shutdown without getting anything in return. And once the subsidies expired, what leverage would the Dems have?
November 10, 2025 at 10:24 PM
(4/11)
“2. There was no way in hell the Republicans were going to agree to extend the subsidies, no matter how firmly the Democrats held their ground.
"3. If the Democrats insisted on keeping the government closed in order to protect the subsidies, at the end of December,
November 10, 2025 at 10:24 PM
(3/11)
Consider:
"1. The ACA enhanced subsidies are set to automatically sunset in December if no Congressional action is taken to extend them. If there is no deal before then, they just go away on their own.
November 10, 2025 at 10:24 PM
(2/11)
The health care subsidies would have just gone away on January 1st, but now Republicans will have to vote to kill them, and own that vote.

"But wait - let's do a deeper dive. You will see that that getting that agreement is a brilliant strategic move, even if the vote fails.
November 10, 2025 at 10:24 PM
There is good reasoning with long explanation. Yes it is somewhat disappointing to feel we caved but this will work out for the best.
November 10, 2025 at 9:47 PM