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RN at Sharp (San Diego): Cared for likely early COVID case (onset late Dec 2019). Previously healthy 30s pt—ICU, unusual clotting, highly contagious, nearly died. No travel. Hospital reported unknown viral pneumonia early Jan.
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December 8, 2025 at 5:17 PM
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Accustory papers sometimes get publish though.
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Gain-of-function and origin of Covid19
In nature, wild viruses adapted for transmission circulate in many animal species (bats, birds, primates…). Contamination of other animals, including …
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December 8, 2025 at 5:16 PM
Accustory papers sometimes get publish though.
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Papers do make it through; however, they typically won't imply wrongdoing in order to get published.
December 8, 2025 at 5:14 PM
Papers do make it through; however, they typically won't imply wrongdoing in order to get published.
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For instance, Worobey's speculative paper is allowed, whereas this equally good paper doesn't get published because it is speculative (much like Worobey's) and implies wrongdoing by China. The outbreak in Wuhan was likely far along by Dec.
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For instance, Worobey's speculative paper is allowed, whereas this equally good paper doesn't get published because it is speculative (much like Worobey's) and implies wrongdoing by China. The outbreak in Wuhan was likely far along by Dec.
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Cremation numbers reveal possible suppression of true COVID-19 data in China
A potentially explosive new study published on the preprint server medRxiv in June 2020 suggests that the official Chinese statistics on COVID-19 cases or mortality are neither reliable nor credible. ...
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December 8, 2025 at 5:12 PM
Basic Grammar Rewrite
For instance, Worobey's speculative paper is allowed, whereas this equally good paper doesn't get published because it is speculative (much like Worobey's) and implies wrongdoing by China. The outbreak in Wuhan was likely far along by Dec.
www.news-medical.net/news/2020060...
For instance, Worobey's speculative paper is allowed, whereas this equally good paper doesn't get published because it is speculative (much like Worobey's) and implies wrongdoing by China. The outbreak in Wuhan was likely far along by Dec.
www.news-medical.net/news/2020060...
Here is an epidemiologist and biosec expert pointing to the field's history; I've seen this noted by many in the field. There are zero GOOD papers providing evidence for natural spillover. Natural spillover requires an animal host. Also, the peer review process tends not to allow accusatory papers.
December 8, 2025 at 5:08 PM
Here is an epidemiologist and biosec expert pointing to the field's history; I've seen this noted by many in the field. There are zero GOOD papers providing evidence for natural spillover. Natural spillover requires an animal host. Also, the peer review process tends not to allow accusatory papers.
COVID will likely make itself known in the region where it spreads first, because healthcare systems will become overwhelmed there first. That is about as specific as it will likely get.
Wuhan looked overwhemed at first signs of outbreak. They had an noted respiratory infection going back to Oct.
Wuhan looked overwhemed at first signs of outbreak. They had an noted respiratory infection going back to Oct.
December 8, 2025 at 4:41 PM
COVID will likely make itself known in the region where it spreads first, because healthcare systems will become overwhelmed there first. That is about as specific as it will likely get.
Wuhan looked overwhemed at first signs of outbreak. They had an noted respiratory infection going back to Oct.
Wuhan looked overwhemed at first signs of outbreak. They had an noted respiratory infection going back to Oct.
Spreading elsewhere first is a better hypothesis than the seafood market hypothesis, but COVID still uniquely aligns with their research and emerged in a way that matches the kind of spillover pattern this lab’s work might produce.
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Lab-leak denial is a product of misinformation. If people had been properly informed that a scientist working with the WIV thought it might be a leak, this culture-war stubbornness wouldn’t exist. That’s where all of this started.
December 8, 2025 at 4:37 PM
Spreading elsewhere first is a better hypothesis than the seafood market hypothesis, but COVID still uniquely aligns with their research and emerged in a way that matches the kind of spillover pattern this lab’s work might produce.
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Also, a good scientist would note this kind of work can run in tandem with other lines of research. The fact is, this lab did manipulate these viruses further up the evolutionary ladder to where they might directly impact humans.
December 8, 2025 at 2:09 PM
Also, a good scientist would note this kind of work can run in tandem with other lines of research. The fact is, this lab did manipulate these viruses further up the evolutionary ladder to where they might directly impact humans.
This, of course, is met with the usual over certainty. Scientists disagree here. What would this look like after a leak and a few weeks of adaptation in the local population? Good scientists, not influenced by an “undesirable” hypothesis, wouldn’t be so certain.
December 8, 2025 at 1:20 PM
This, of course, is met with the usual over certainty. Scientists disagree here. What would this look like after a leak and a few weeks of adaptation in the local population? Good scientists, not influenced by an “undesirable” hypothesis, wouldn’t be so certain.
COVID was strangely already well-adapted to human transmission when it was first noticed. ⬇️ What a coincidence! Were there more than two viruses being worked on there? Do we really know what those two were?
December 8, 2025 at 1:16 PM
COVID was strangely already well-adapted to human transmission when it was first noticed. ⬇️ What a coincidence! Were there more than two viruses being worked on there? Do we really know what those two were?
Here’s what that scientist working with the WIV proposed doing. I love this post because the first sentence cuts through every line of BS that’s been thrown at it—there’s been a lot, including from so-called fact-check sites.
December 8, 2025 at 1:07 PM
Here’s what that scientist working with the WIV proposed doing. I love this post because the first sentence cuts through every line of BS that’s been thrown at it—there’s been a lot, including from so-called fact-check sites.
Lab-leak denial is a product of misinformation. If people had been properly informed that a scientist working with the WIV thought it might be a leak, this culture-war stubbornness wouldn’t exist. That’s where all of this started.
December 8, 2025 at 12:53 PM
Lab-leak denial is a product of misinformation. If people had been properly informed that a scientist working with the WIV thought it might be a leak, this culture-war stubbornness wouldn’t exist. That’s where all of this started.
There is no consensus on this. Even their one limited poll didn’t show that and had to rely on snowball sampling.
We have a virus that uniquely aligns with their work, and the market cases look more like a diversion.
Undesirable hypotheses attract a lot of politics dressed up as science.
We have a virus that uniquely aligns with their work, and the market cases look more like a diversion.
Undesirable hypotheses attract a lot of politics dressed up as science.
December 8, 2025 at 12:41 PM
There is no consensus on this. Even their one limited poll didn’t show that and had to rely on snowball sampling.
We have a virus that uniquely aligns with their work, and the market cases look more like a diversion.
Undesirable hypotheses attract a lot of politics dressed up as science.
We have a virus that uniquely aligns with their work, and the market cases look more like a diversion.
Undesirable hypotheses attract a lot of politics dressed up as science.
We have a virus that aligns uniquely with their work and emerged with an odd spillover pattern that this lab would likely produce.
Undesirable hypotheses can get ruled out with a lot of BS.
Undesirable hypotheses can get ruled out with a lot of BS.
December 8, 2025 at 12:27 PM
We have a virus that aligns uniquely with their work and emerged with an odd spillover pattern that this lab would likely produce.
Undesirable hypotheses can get ruled out with a lot of BS.
Undesirable hypotheses can get ruled out with a lot of BS.
The market looks too much like a diversion, so a host animal needs to be found.
SC2 wouldn't likely leave hints that specific. Covid has about 1% hospitalization and spreads too fast.
SC2 wouldn't likely leave hints that specific. Covid has about 1% hospitalization and spreads too fast.
December 8, 2025 at 12:14 PM
The market looks too much like a diversion, so a host animal needs to be found.
SC2 wouldn't likely leave hints that specific. Covid has about 1% hospitalization and spreads too fast.
SC2 wouldn't likely leave hints that specific. Covid has about 1% hospitalization and spreads too fast.
Most people learned their lesson the first time the field improperly dismissed the possibility of an accident. Genomics cannot favor natural spillover because a lab leak could involve a 100% natural virus; there are also significant disagreements regarding those genomic analyses.
December 8, 2025 at 12:07 PM
Most people learned their lesson the first time the field improperly dismissed the possibility of an accident. Genomics cannot favor natural spillover because a lab leak could involve a 100% natural virus; there are also significant disagreements regarding those genomic analyses.
The field is FUBAR trying to make the market work. December cases tell us nothing.
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Waiting for the truth: is reluctance in accepting an early origin hypothesis for SARS-CoV-2 delaying our understanding of viral emergence?
Two years after the start of the COVID-19 pandemic, key questions about the emergence of its aetiological agent (SARS-CoV-2) remain a matter of considerable debate. Identifying when SARS-CoV-2 began s...
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December 6, 2025 at 2:46 PM
The field is FUBAR trying to make the market work. December cases tell us nothing.
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Covid was already global in December. I had a likely patient in a cytokine-like storm with unusual clotting, diagnosed with unknown viral pneumonia just three weeks from the market’s first reported case. Healthcare around the world reported the same.
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SARS-CoV-2 was already spreading in France in late December 2019
The COVID-19 epidemic is believed to have started in late January 2020 in France. Here we report a case of a patient hospitalised in December 2019 in …
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December 6, 2025 at 2:38 PM
Covid was already global in December. I had a likely patient in a cytokine-like storm with unusual clotting, diagnosed with unknown viral pneumonia just three weeks from the market’s first reported case. Healthcare around the world reported the same.
www.sciencedirect.com/science/arti...
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The wet market has more coincidences suggesting it’s a political diversion than the WIV has suggesting it was an accident.
An infection that spreads quickly among the young and sociable, & 1% hospitalization, doesn’t leave clear origin trails. Wuhan’s healthcare was overwhelmed Dec/Jan.
An infection that spreads quickly among the young and sociable, & 1% hospitalization, doesn’t leave clear origin trails. Wuhan’s healthcare was overwhelmed Dec/Jan.
December 6, 2025 at 2:31 PM
The wet market has more coincidences suggesting it’s a political diversion than the WIV has suggesting it was an accident.
An infection that spreads quickly among the young and sociable, & 1% hospitalization, doesn’t leave clear origin trails. Wuhan’s healthcare was overwhelmed Dec/Jan.
An infection that spreads quickly among the young and sociable, & 1% hospitalization, doesn’t leave clear origin trails. Wuhan’s healthcare was overwhelmed Dec/Jan.
The field is not set up to investigate itself. Unless the issue is obvious, they will likely improperly rule it out due to bias.
December 6, 2025 at 12:56 PM
The field is not set up to investigate itself. Unless the issue is obvious, they will likely improperly rule it out due to bias.
Quality? This whole lab leak denial nonsense started with disinformation when the press misreported about the scientist working at WIV saying it might be a leak.
December 4, 2025 at 7:31 PM
Quality? This whole lab leak denial nonsense started with disinformation when the press misreported about the scientist working at WIV saying it might be a leak.
It’s a fast breakdown for people busy. You clearly aren't reading the evidence anyway, seeing as you ignored the massive amount of data I posted and came back in ten minutes just to whine about a Twitter link. Since peer review tends to block 'accusatory' papers, this is how the info gets out.
December 1, 2025 at 1:51 PM
It’s a fast breakdown for people busy. You clearly aren't reading the evidence anyway, seeing as you ignored the massive amount of data I posted and came back in ten minutes just to whine about a Twitter link. Since peer review tends to block 'accusatory' papers, this is how the info gets out.
Covid closely aligns with their work. I like this virologist 1-16 post thread explanation.
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Dissenting Skeptic on X: "@Horatioyuletide @IntegralAnswers @Biorealism @Politics_Reply @allthetitles 1\ Ok, get ready for a 🧵, and I won't address the natural origin hypothesis, just the evidence for a lab leak: First, its not just "virus outbreak near virology lab": a vast multitide of viruses exist and can cause outbreaks, and virology labs specialize in a subset of them" / X
@Horatioyuletide @IntegralAnswers @Biorealism @Politics_Reply @allthetitles 1\ Ok, get ready for a 🧵, and I won't address the natural origin hypothesis, just the evidence for a lab leak: First, its not just "virus outbreak near virology lab": a vast multitide of viruses exist and can cause outbreaks, and virology labs specialize in a subset of them
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December 1, 2025 at 1:33 PM
Covid closely aligns with their work. I like this virologist 1-16 post thread explanation.
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All natural spillover has got is a ruse. Covid doesn't leave clear origin trails and Wuhan's healthcare was notably overwhelmed at first glance. Covid was already global in December. (see my bio)
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A small minority of scientist speculate about the wetmarket when a lot of research papers hint at the virus being well spread in Wuhan by Dec 2019.
The rest of their "evidence" is just pointing similarities in nature which does nothing to rule out or favor either side.
The rest of their "evidence" is just pointing similarities in nature which does nothing to rule out or favor either side.
December 1, 2025 at 1:14 PM
All natural spillover has got is a ruse. Covid doesn't leave clear origin trails and Wuhan's healthcare was notably overwhelmed at first glance. Covid was already global in December. (see my bio)
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