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If I wasn't having fun, this would be intolerable.
My guess is that it originated with Coster, since the emails were being redirected to his office, but you're right it could have gone unchallenged through a few people before it got to the PS. Those instructions would be worth requesting, too.
November 12, 2025 at 5:59 AM
My guess is that it originated with Coster, since the emails were being redirected to his office, but you're right it could have gone unchallenged through a few people before it got to the PS. Those instructions would be worth requesting, too.
No. But I also dont think Health bosses instructed their PS to deliberately hide correspondence from members of the public from Ministers and other office staff. And that's what puts this on another level.
November 12, 2025 at 5:30 AM
No. But I also dont think Health bosses instructed their PS to deliberately hide correspondence from members of the public from Ministers and other office staff. And that's what puts this on another level.
That was info they had that they didn't send over. Its bad, but to interfere with someone outside, a constituent, a regular citizen, contacting a Minister directly is a whole other thing.
November 12, 2025 at 5:23 AM
That was info they had that they didn't send over. Its bad, but to interfere with someone outside, a constituent, a regular citizen, contacting a Minister directly is a whole other thing.
Yes! You can send a request to the Ministers office through FYI, or email directly. You can ask for the communication from Police to the office, and the communication to the Minister about it. It doesn't even have to be written information, recollections are covered by the Act.
November 12, 2025 at 5:12 AM
Yes! You can send a request to the Ministers office through FYI, or email directly. You can ask for the communication from Police to the office, and the communication to the Minister about it. It doesn't even have to be written information, recollections are covered by the Act.
Yeah. I have worked at Police, as well as at a lot of other departments in Ministerial Services (doing OIAs, PQs, etc and correspondence) and Police is really the only place I can imagine this happening. It takes a certain level of entitlement to pull this shit.
November 12, 2025 at 4:56 AM
Yeah. I have worked at Police, as well as at a lot of other departments in Ministerial Services (doing OIAs, PQs, etc and correspondence) and Police is really the only place I can imagine this happening. It takes a certain level of entitlement to pull this shit.
No. I think Coster instructed Police staff working in the Mins office to deliberately hide something from the Minister. Mitchell been defending a department that was hiding info from him. He looks a fool and Ministers hate that.
November 12, 2025 at 4:52 AM
No. I think Coster instructed Police staff working in the Mins office to deliberately hide something from the Minister. Mitchell been defending a department that was hiding info from him. He looks a fool and Ministers hate that.
That's what it looks like. This to me feels like your bosses boss calling you up and instructing you to start shredding documents. Just the dodgiest shit imaginable, that's not actually illegal.
November 12, 2025 at 4:48 AM
That's what it looks like. This to me feels like your bosses boss calling you up and instructing you to start shredding documents. Just the dodgiest shit imaginable, that's not actually illegal.
It is completely out of the ordinary. This isn't supposed to happen. It's totally bizarre.
November 12, 2025 at 4:39 AM
It is completely out of the ordinary. This isn't supposed to happen. It's totally bizarre.
No. They work for the department so if they're protecting anyone, its usually the department. Ministers have political staff for that. Coster had to tell them to do this, because this isn't part of the job.
November 12, 2025 at 4:37 AM
No. They work for the department so if they're protecting anyone, its usually the department. Ministers have political staff for that. Coster had to tell them to do this, because this isn't part of the job.
It would be easy enough to flag these as 'do not respond' and the Minister would never know. Other people in the office would trust the PS, especially if they said they were talking to Police about it.
November 12, 2025 at 4:34 AM
It would be easy enough to flag these as 'do not respond' and the Minister would never know. Other people in the office would trust the PS, especially if they said they were talking to Police about it.
I hate Mark Mitchell. And I'd like this to be on him, and it should be because the Minister of Police can't be involved in police operations, so the culture and integrity is where they have most impact. But Ministers get a lot of emails and a lot is rants, threats, etc, that just gets filed.
November 12, 2025 at 4:33 AM
I hate Mark Mitchell. And I'd like this to be on him, and it should be because the Minister of Police can't be involved in police operations, so the culture and integrity is where they have most impact. But Ministers get a lot of emails and a lot is rants, threats, etc, that just gets filed.
No. They're Police staff. They still work for the department. They are working in the Mins office, but they remain NZ Police staff. And not very senior staff, either. The Comissioner instructed a member of his own staff to interfere with correspondence to the Minister.
November 12, 2025 at 4:22 AM
No. They're Police staff. They still work for the department. They are working in the Mins office, but they remain NZ Police staff. And not very senior staff, either. The Comissioner instructed a member of his own staff to interfere with correspondence to the Minister.
And that's egregious too. I've been a PS and hiding correspondence from the other people in the office would be stressful and require a bit of finangling with the email system. Min correspondence is supposed to be kept.
November 12, 2025 at 4:18 AM
And that's egregious too. I've been a PS and hiding correspondence from the other people in the office would be stressful and require a bit of finangling with the email system. Min correspondence is supposed to be kept.
Its a Police person in Mitchell's office. And part of that job is monitoring the inbox. I suspect they removed the emails before anybody else could see them. You're right, though, others can see that inbox so part of it would be hiding it from the other staff.
November 12, 2025 at 4:16 AM
Its a Police person in Mitchell's office. And part of that job is monitoring the inbox. I suspect they removed the emails before anybody else could see them. You're right, though, others can see that inbox so part of it would be hiding it from the other staff.
Ministers get thousands of emails. They usually dont read them themselves until a response is drafted for their review.
November 12, 2025 at 4:13 AM
Ministers get thousands of emails. They usually dont read them themselves until a response is drafted for their review.
All Minister's have Private Secretaries who are seconded from the department they are responsible for. They work as liaisons between the office and the department. They monitor the public inbox, deal with correspondence, do admin around briefings, advice and meetings.
November 12, 2025 at 4:12 AM
All Minister's have Private Secretaries who are seconded from the department they are responsible for. They work as liaisons between the office and the department. They monitor the public inbox, deal with correspondence, do admin around briefings, advice and meetings.
I don't think Police would make it up, so yeah, I think that's what happened. I dont think anyone in senior management involved in that could have a role in govt, no Minister could trust them.
November 12, 2025 at 4:08 AM
I don't think Police would make it up, so yeah, I think that's what happened. I dont think anyone in senior management involved in that could have a role in govt, no Minister could trust them.
Yeah. The emails are read by office staff. Departments are commissioned for advice on OIAs and replies to correspondence. The Minister doesn't see everything (usually just the responses when they sign them out). But this deliberate hiding of emails is bizarre and would have been career ending.
November 12, 2025 at 4:05 AM
Yeah. The emails are read by office staff. Departments are commissioned for advice on OIAs and replies to correspondence. The Minister doesn't see everything (usually just the responses when they sign them out). But this deliberate hiding of emails is bizarre and would have been career ending.
Sort of. The Ministers public facing inboxes are usually monitored by Private Secretaries seconded from Departments. So, yes, it looks like the PS was instructed to interfere with the victim contacting the Minister and if I was Mitchell I'd be furious.
November 12, 2025 at 4:00 AM
Sort of. The Ministers public facing inboxes are usually monitored by Private Secretaries seconded from Departments. So, yes, it looks like the PS was instructed to interfere with the victim contacting the Minister and if I was Mitchell I'd be furious.
Ask for information the Minister relied on to support any statement they have made.
November 12, 2025 at 1:24 AM
Ask for information the Minister relied on to support any statement they have made.
I remember this because no one in the story had a mental health issue, it was a straight forward car hits pedestrian. And how odd to include a random comment from a woman at the movies during the incident. But making normies afraid of homeless people is, I assume, a big part of media training.
Witness recalls 'shocking' moment he stopped car that ran over woman in Wellington
"I just got up, filled with adrenaline and just ran...I made him get out of the car, told him get out, stay there, wait for the cops."
www.rnz.co.nz
November 11, 2025 at 8:45 PM
I remember this because no one in the story had a mental health issue, it was a straight forward car hits pedestrian. And how odd to include a random comment from a woman at the movies during the incident. But making normies afraid of homeless people is, I assume, a big part of media training.
I think its a media thing. Back in Feb a woman was hit by a car on Courtenay Place and RNZ made sure to include the reckons of someone who was at a movie nearby at the time about how the people who helped should have been more careful because people here have "mental health problems".
November 11, 2025 at 8:42 PM
I think its a media thing. Back in Feb a woman was hit by a car on Courtenay Place and RNZ made sure to include the reckons of someone who was at a movie nearby at the time about how the people who helped should have been more careful because people here have "mental health problems".
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There was a big push to stop WFH of public servants because CBD businesses (and their landlords) were suffering after 7,000 lost their jobs and stopped spending. It failed because it was stupid and a breach of contract for some of us. But they really did not think it through.
November 7, 2025 at 8:58 PM
There was a big push to stop WFH of public servants because CBD businesses (and their landlords) were suffering after 7,000 lost their jobs and stopped spending. It failed because it was stupid and a breach of contract for some of us. But they really did not think it through.