@noo.eu
Big Tech owns Europe’s digital life. We're taking it back.
Worker-led, privacy-first email, cloud & collaboration—built in the 🇪🇺
Read the manifesto: https://noo.eu
Join our Discord server: https://discord.gg/WHFsfpUAth
Worker-led, privacy-first email, cloud & collaboration—built in the 🇪🇺
Read the manifesto: https://noo.eu
Join our Discord server: https://discord.gg/WHFsfpUAth
I think digital sovereignty shouldn't feel like a fringe concern anymore. We depend entirely, as a continent, on infrastructure we don't control.
We're working on something in this space 👀. Would you like a very early peek?
We're working on something in this space 👀. Would you like a very early peek?
March 18, 2025 at 9:09 AM
I think digital sovereignty shouldn't feel like a fringe concern anymore. We depend entirely, as a continent, on infrastructure we don't control.
We're working on something in this space 👀. Would you like a very early peek?
We're working on something in this space 👀. Would you like a very early peek?
Oh absolutely, it’s our preferred choice too!
But we’re still (very) early stage, and we need a way to support users across Europe without letting i18n become a bottleneck (as it often is).
Human translations are more accurate (and less awkward), we just need more humans 😊
But we’re still (very) early stage, and we need a way to support users across Europe without letting i18n become a bottleneck (as it often is).
Human translations are more accurate (and less awkward), we just need more humans 😊
awkward.community
March 12, 2025 at 5:39 AM
Oh absolutely, it’s our preferred choice too!
But we’re still (very) early stage, and we need a way to support users across Europe without letting i18n become a bottleneck (as it often is).
Human translations are more accurate (and less awkward), we just need more humans 😊
But we’re still (very) early stage, and we need a way to support users across Europe without letting i18n become a bottleneck (as it often is).
Human translations are more accurate (and less awkward), we just need more humans 😊
We will definitely be testing #Mistral (we’re hopeful). Still rooting for EU-made to pull ahead.
Still looking for a solid, open, EU-made alternative.
We're exploring this (and many other problems) out in the open. If you're into coding, infra, or anything else, we’d love to hear from you.
Still looking for a solid, open, EU-made alternative.
We're exploring this (and many other problems) out in the open. If you're into coding, infra, or anything else, we’d love to hear from you.
March 11, 2025 at 2:51 PM
We will definitely be testing #Mistral (we’re hopeful). Still rooting for EU-made to pull ahead.
Still looking for a solid, open, EU-made alternative.
We're exploring this (and many other problems) out in the open. If you're into coding, infra, or anything else, we’d love to hear from you.
Still looking for a solid, open, EU-made alternative.
We're exploring this (and many other problems) out in the open. If you're into coding, infra, or anything else, we’d love to hear from you.
Closed models fared better.
- GPT-4o-mini nailed almost everything. Sometimes odd tone or formality, but meaning held.
- GPT-4o? Only needs light edits for perfectionism.
We are using 4o-mini. 33x cheaper than 4o and good enough for now.
- GPT-4o-mini nailed almost everything. Sometimes odd tone or formality, but meaning held.
- GPT-4o? Only needs light edits for perfectionism.
We are using 4o-mini. 33x cheaper than 4o and good enough for now.
March 11, 2025 at 2:51 PM
Closed models fared better.
- GPT-4o-mini nailed almost everything. Sometimes odd tone or formality, but meaning held.
- GPT-4o? Only needs light edits for perfectionism.
We are using 4o-mini. 33x cheaper than 4o and good enough for now.
- GPT-4o-mini nailed almost everything. Sometimes odd tone or formality, but meaning held.
- GPT-4o? Only needs light edits for perfectionism.
We are using 4o-mini. 33x cheaper than 4o and good enough for now.
We started with open models.
- gemma2 struggled with nuance. "Back" became "Backwards" in many languages. A tough bug to catch unless you’re fluent.
- llama3.1 is okay in Spanish, passable in DE/FR/IT—but beyond that, same story: ambiguity, tone drift, wrong forms.
Great effort. Not ready yet.
- gemma2 struggled with nuance. "Back" became "Backwards" in many languages. A tough bug to catch unless you’re fluent.
- llama3.1 is okay in Spanish, passable in DE/FR/IT—but beyond that, same story: ambiguity, tone drift, wrong forms.
Great effort. Not ready yet.
March 11, 2025 at 2:51 PM
We started with open models.
- gemma2 struggled with nuance. "Back" became "Backwards" in many languages. A tough bug to catch unless you’re fluent.
- llama3.1 is okay in Spanish, passable in DE/FR/IT—but beyond that, same story: ambiguity, tone drift, wrong forms.
Great effort. Not ready yet.
- gemma2 struggled with nuance. "Back" became "Backwards" in many languages. A tough bug to catch unless you’re fluent.
- llama3.1 is okay in Spanish, passable in DE/FR/IT—but beyond that, same story: ambiguity, tone drift, wrong forms.
Great effort. Not ready yet.
Surveillance. Censorship. Vulnerability.
Every day, #Europe hands over its digital future to foreign corporations. That needs to change.
noo is our answer.
🚀 Join the movement.
noo.eu
discord.gg/WHFsfpUAth
Together, we build. 🇪🇺 💪
Every day, #Europe hands over its digital future to foreign corporations. That needs to change.
noo is our answer.
🚀 Join the movement.
noo.eu
discord.gg/WHFsfpUAth
Together, we build. 🇪🇺 💪
March 5, 2025 at 10:57 AM
Surveillance. Censorship. Vulnerability.
Every day, #Europe hands over its digital future to foreign corporations. That needs to change.
noo is our answer.
🚀 Join the movement.
noo.eu
discord.gg/WHFsfpUAth
Together, we build. 🇪🇺 💪
Every day, #Europe hands over its digital future to foreign corporations. That needs to change.
noo is our answer.
🚀 Join the movement.
noo.eu
discord.gg/WHFsfpUAth
Together, we build. 🇪🇺 💪
Every morning, we check our emails with #Google.
We sign in to work on a #Microsoft account.
We store our files on #Dropbox.
We chat on #WhatsApp.
We shop on #Amazon.
At every step, we surrender control, privacy, and autonomy to corporations beyond our borders.
We sign in to work on a #Microsoft account.
We store our files on #Dropbox.
We chat on #WhatsApp.
We shop on #Amazon.
At every step, we surrender control, privacy, and autonomy to corporations beyond our borders.
March 5, 2025 at 10:57 AM
Every morning, we check our emails with #Google.
We sign in to work on a #Microsoft account.
We store our files on #Dropbox.
We chat on #WhatsApp.
We shop on #Amazon.
At every step, we surrender control, privacy, and autonomy to corporations beyond our borders.
We sign in to work on a #Microsoft account.
We store our files on #Dropbox.
We chat on #WhatsApp.
We shop on #Amazon.
At every step, we surrender control, privacy, and autonomy to corporations beyond our borders.
Your thread really resonates. Finding good EU alternatives is tough.
We’re working on something in this space that will be worker-led, privacy-focused (starting with identity and mail). Still early days, hoping more EU projects gain traction.
We’re working on something in this space that will be worker-led, privacy-focused (starting with identity and mail). Still early days, hoping more EU projects gain traction.
February 28, 2025 at 7:32 AM
Your thread really resonates. Finding good EU alternatives is tough.
We’re working on something in this space that will be worker-led, privacy-focused (starting with identity and mail). Still early days, hoping more EU projects gain traction.
We’re working on something in this space that will be worker-led, privacy-focused (starting with identity and mail). Still early days, hoping more EU projects gain traction.