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Lewisham shopping centre rebuild already pushed back despite very few "affordable" homes when approved to make it "viable".
Add it to the long list of slow moving projects? See also Convoys Wharf in Deptford (25 yrs and counting), Greenwich peninsula (25 yrs), Thamesmead (15 yrs+ in places) etc etc
Add it to the long list of slow moving projects? See also Convoys Wharf in Deptford (25 yrs and counting), Greenwich peninsula (25 yrs), Thamesmead (15 yrs+ in places) etc etc
December 2, 2025 at 12:25 PM
Lewisham shopping centre rebuild already pushed back despite very few "affordable" homes when approved to make it "viable".
Add it to the long list of slow moving projects? See also Convoys Wharf in Deptford (25 yrs and counting), Greenwich peninsula (25 yrs), Thamesmead (15 yrs+ in places) etc etc
Add it to the long list of slow moving projects? See also Convoys Wharf in Deptford (25 yrs and counting), Greenwich peninsula (25 yrs), Thamesmead (15 yrs+ in places) etc etc
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December 2, 2025 at 8:48 AM
Plans in for 70 homes in Bexleyheath.
Very low levels of "affordable" homes despite being public land. Bexley council's developer is behind the project.
Transport proposals are poor. No opening up of route leading to nearby station
www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/12/02/b...
Very low levels of "affordable" homes despite being public land. Bexley council's developer is behind the project.
Transport proposals are poor. No opening up of route leading to nearby station
www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/12/02/b...
Bexley Council's developer submits plan for 70 Bexleyheath homes - Murky Depths
Plans are in for 70 new homes in Bexleyheath from Bexley Council with extremely low levels of affordable housing
www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk
December 2, 2025 at 11:23 AM
Plans in for 70 homes in Bexleyheath.
Very low levels of "affordable" homes despite being public land. Bexley council's developer is behind the project.
Transport proposals are poor. No opening up of route leading to nearby station
www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/12/02/b...
Very low levels of "affordable" homes despite being public land. Bexley council's developer is behind the project.
Transport proposals are poor. No opening up of route leading to nearby station
www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/12/02/b...
Lewisham Model Market returns.
Plans to demolish this part of Lewisham shopping centre - submitted in 2024 - in advance of redevelopment has been withdrawn.
Overall start date pushed back shortly after wider approval given www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/12/01/l...
Plans to demolish this part of Lewisham shopping centre - submitted in 2024 - in advance of redevelopment has been withdrawn.
Overall start date pushed back shortly after wider approval given www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/12/01/l...
Lewisham Model Market set to return as demolition plan withdrawn - Murky Depths
Lewisham Model Market is to return in spring 2026 in a sign that redeveloping Lewisham shopping centre isn't happening anytime soon
www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk
December 2, 2025 at 8:21 AM
Lewisham Model Market returns.
Plans to demolish this part of Lewisham shopping centre - submitted in 2024 - in advance of redevelopment has been withdrawn.
Overall start date pushed back shortly after wider approval given www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/12/01/l...
Plans to demolish this part of Lewisham shopping centre - submitted in 2024 - in advance of redevelopment has been withdrawn.
Overall start date pushed back shortly after wider approval given www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/12/01/l...
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Municipal guide of the day: the former Metropolitan Borough of Lewisham. This one dates from the mid-1950s and features a great shot of the Bromley Road at Bellingham.
May 16, 2025 at 7:10 PM
Municipal guide of the day: the former Metropolitan Borough of Lewisham. This one dates from the mid-1950s and features a great shot of the Bromley Road at Bellingham.
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I’m very pleased that Jonathan Gullis has joined Reform – we need more conviction politicians with strongly held principles. In other news, here he is explaining why there is absolutely no chance he would ever defect to Reform.
December 1, 2025 at 7:49 PM
I’m very pleased that Jonathan Gullis has joined Reform – we need more conviction politicians with strongly held principles. In other news, here he is explaining why there is absolutely no chance he would ever defect to Reform.
TfL to reduce buses from Kidbrooke linking to Liz line at Woolwich.
Next year reducing buses from south Thamesmead to the Elizabeth line at Abbey Wood.
Maybe less effort on the flawed DLR plan and more on improving links from new homes here and now? www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/11/30/t...
Next year reducing buses from south Thamesmead to the Elizabeth line at Abbey Wood.
Maybe less effort on the flawed DLR plan and more on improving links from new homes here and now? www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/11/30/t...
TfL reveal a number of bus changes in south east London - Murky Depths
TfL have revealed various changes to bus services in south east London includes service alterations and vehicle changes
www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk
December 1, 2025 at 6:35 PM
TfL to reduce buses from Kidbrooke linking to Liz line at Woolwich.
Next year reducing buses from south Thamesmead to the Elizabeth line at Abbey Wood.
Maybe less effort on the flawed DLR plan and more on improving links from new homes here and now? www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/11/30/t...
Next year reducing buses from south Thamesmead to the Elizabeth line at Abbey Wood.
Maybe less effort on the flawed DLR plan and more on improving links from new homes here and now? www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/11/30/t...
Thameslink cancel services on Greenwich line for rest of the day and possibly into tomorrow.
Compounds Southeastern rail cuts retained in next timetable despite previous opposition from Labour. Now in power retained until May 2026 at earliest
www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/12/01/t...
Compounds Southeastern rail cuts retained in next timetable despite previous opposition from Labour. Now in power retained until May 2026 at earliest
www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/12/01/t...
Thameslink cancels Greenwich line rail service all day - Murky Depths
Thameslink have cancelled all trains along the Greenwich line for the day ensuring long service intervals at certain stations
www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk
December 1, 2025 at 5:48 PM
Thameslink cancel services on Greenwich line for rest of the day and possibly into tomorrow.
Compounds Southeastern rail cuts retained in next timetable despite previous opposition from Labour. Now in power retained until May 2026 at earliest
www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/12/01/t...
Compounds Southeastern rail cuts retained in next timetable despite previous opposition from Labour. Now in power retained until May 2026 at earliest
www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/12/01/t...
Anyone know if some rather large developments have begun yet (as proposed to start around now) at:
Woolwich Central beside Tesco
Greenwich towers near 338 club
Greenwich tower beside Deptford Creek.
I've been ill so not been out and wondering if worth popping over for some posts on the site.
Woolwich Central beside Tesco
Greenwich towers near 338 club
Greenwich tower beside Deptford Creek.
I've been ill so not been out and wondering if worth popping over for some posts on the site.
December 1, 2025 at 2:39 PM
Anyone know if some rather large developments have begun yet (as proposed to start around now) at:
Woolwich Central beside Tesco
Greenwich towers near 338 club
Greenwich tower beside Deptford Creek.
I've been ill so not been out and wondering if worth popping over for some posts on the site.
Woolwich Central beside Tesco
Greenwich towers near 338 club
Greenwich tower beside Deptford Creek.
I've been ill so not been out and wondering if worth popping over for some posts on the site.
Various bus changes on the way in south east London.
Some routes improved, some reduced. Bus stops avoided. Vehicle changes including a move to double-deckers and new electric vehicles.
www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/11/30/t...
Some routes improved, some reduced. Bus stops avoided. Vehicle changes including a move to double-deckers and new electric vehicles.
www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/11/30/t...
TfL reveal a number of bus changes in south east London - Murky Depths
TfL have revealed various changes to bus services in south east London includes service alterations and vehicle changes
www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk
November 30, 2025 at 7:01 PM
Various bus changes on the way in south east London.
Some routes improved, some reduced. Bus stops avoided. Vehicle changes including a move to double-deckers and new electric vehicles.
www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/11/30/t...
Some routes improved, some reduced. Bus stops avoided. Vehicle changes including a move to double-deckers and new electric vehicles.
www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/11/30/t...
This make sense. Lots of money spent by Greenwich 25+ years ago on trying to create industrial area. Never really worked. Lots of vacant space remains.
Now could move units near stations eg Woolwich to the site = Much space for homes near stations www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/11/27/n...
Now could move units near stations eg Woolwich to the site = Much space for homes near stations www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/11/27/n...
New bus garage planned in Thamesmead - Murky Depths
Plans have been revealed for a large bus depot and garage in Thamesmead at a spot long underused
www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk
November 28, 2025 at 2:20 PM
This make sense. Lots of money spent by Greenwich 25+ years ago on trying to create industrial area. Never really worked. Lots of vacant space remains.
Now could move units near stations eg Woolwich to the site = Much space for homes near stations www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/11/27/n...
Now could move units near stations eg Woolwich to the site = Much space for homes near stations www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/11/27/n...
Fate of east London's Genesis cinema is being decided right now
www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/11/24/e...
www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/11/24/e...
East London's Genesis cinema demolition and rebuild plan to be decided - Murky Depths
Contentious plans to demolish and redevelop the Genesis cinema in east London are to be decided this week with planners opposed
www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk
November 27, 2025 at 6:44 PM
Fate of east London's Genesis cinema is being decided right now
www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/11/24/e...
www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/11/24/e...
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Have to wonder how much corruption there is with the "Right to Buy Back".
Council homes sold off cheap. Then bought back at vastly higher cost.
This money should be spent building NEW homes for growing need, not existing homes at high cost
www.bigissue.com/news/housing...
Council homes sold off cheap. Then bought back at vastly higher cost.
This money should be spent building NEW homes for growing need, not existing homes at high cost
www.bigissue.com/news/housing...
Council sells homes for £10m under Right to Buy – then spends £33m buying them back
Newham Council, with the largest social housing wait list in the country, has lost tens of millions trying to buy back ex-Right to Buy homes.
www.bigissue.com
November 27, 2025 at 10:52 AM
Have to wonder how much corruption there is with the "Right to Buy Back".
Council homes sold off cheap. Then bought back at vastly higher cost.
This money should be spent building NEW homes for growing need, not existing homes at high cost
www.bigissue.com/news/housing...
Council homes sold off cheap. Then bought back at vastly higher cost.
This money should be spent building NEW homes for growing need, not existing homes at high cost
www.bigissue.com/news/housing...
Student loan will start to be repayable on earnings above minimum wages.
Tax rate will be:
20 per cent Income Tax
8 per cent National Insurance
9 per cent Student Loan repayment
37 per cent taxed on earnings above minimum wage.
And most young people know they'll get a small if any state pension
Tax rate will be:
20 per cent Income Tax
8 per cent National Insurance
9 per cent Student Loan repayment
37 per cent taxed on earnings above minimum wage.
And most young people know they'll get a small if any state pension
November 27, 2025 at 12:19 PM
Student loan will start to be repayable on earnings above minimum wages.
Tax rate will be:
20 per cent Income Tax
8 per cent National Insurance
9 per cent Student Loan repayment
37 per cent taxed on earnings above minimum wage.
And most young people know they'll get a small if any state pension
Tax rate will be:
20 per cent Income Tax
8 per cent National Insurance
9 per cent Student Loan repayment
37 per cent taxed on earnings above minimum wage.
And most young people know they'll get a small if any state pension
First refurbished Class 376 train on Southeastern Metro enters service.
Good news = plugs and USB.
Bad = last trains ordered without aircon still retain no aircon for next 20 years. Not a great way to encourage train use and push modal shift www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/11/27/s...
Good news = plugs and USB.
Bad = last trains ordered without aircon still retain no aircon for next 20 years. Not a great way to encourage train use and push modal shift www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/11/27/s...
Southeastern's first refurbished Metro Class 376 train enters service - Murky Depths
The first refurbished Southeastern Metro Class 376 train to enter service has seen passengers as a number of upgrades undertaken
www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk
November 27, 2025 at 12:03 PM
First refurbished Class 376 train on Southeastern Metro enters service.
Good news = plugs and USB.
Bad = last trains ordered without aircon still retain no aircon for next 20 years. Not a great way to encourage train use and push modal shift www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/11/27/s...
Good news = plugs and USB.
Bad = last trains ordered without aircon still retain no aircon for next 20 years. Not a great way to encourage train use and push modal shift www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/11/27/s...
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i mean not to prejudge this, but the cyber expert is likely to say 'yeah you hit publish, mate'
OBR calls in cyber expert over botched release of Budget analysis
OBR calls in cyber expert over botched release of Budget analysis
Rachel Reeves's statement was thrown into chaos after journalists were able to access the document early.
www.bbc.com
November 27, 2025 at 11:25 AM
i mean not to prejudge this, but the cyber expert is likely to say 'yeah you hit publish, mate'
Govt announce Right to Buy changes late 2024 giving substantial advance notice
Flood of applications. Many homes sold.
Councils have to pay for more staff to process adding to budget problems
Council sells more land to plug gap rather than build homes
www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/11/27/g...
Flood of applications. Many homes sold.
Councils have to pay for more staff to process adding to budget problems
Council sells more land to plug gap rather than build homes
www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/11/27/g...
Greenwich go for more land sales as car parks up for sale via auction - Murky Depths
Greenwich Council have put three car parks up for sale in Blackheath, Plumstead ad Charlton in yet another sell off of public land
www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk
November 27, 2025 at 11:24 AM
Govt announce Right to Buy changes late 2024 giving substantial advance notice
Flood of applications. Many homes sold.
Councils have to pay for more staff to process adding to budget problems
Council sells more land to plug gap rather than build homes
www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/11/27/g...
Flood of applications. Many homes sold.
Councils have to pay for more staff to process adding to budget problems
Council sells more land to plug gap rather than build homes
www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/11/27/g...
Have to wonder how much corruption there is with the "Right to Buy Back".
Council homes sold off cheap. Then bought back at vastly higher cost.
This money should be spent building NEW homes for growing need, not existing homes at high cost
www.bigissue.com/news/housing...
Council homes sold off cheap. Then bought back at vastly higher cost.
This money should be spent building NEW homes for growing need, not existing homes at high cost
www.bigissue.com/news/housing...
Council sells homes for £10m under Right to Buy – then spends £33m buying them back
Newham Council, with the largest social housing wait list in the country, has lost tens of millions trying to buy back ex-Right to Buy homes.
www.bigissue.com
November 27, 2025 at 10:52 AM
Have to wonder how much corruption there is with the "Right to Buy Back".
Council homes sold off cheap. Then bought back at vastly higher cost.
This money should be spent building NEW homes for growing need, not existing homes at high cost
www.bigissue.com/news/housing...
Council homes sold off cheap. Then bought back at vastly higher cost.
This money should be spent building NEW homes for growing need, not existing homes at high cost
www.bigissue.com/news/housing...
Browsing the TfL commissioners report, as you do.
Not much of interest in it really. Brief mention of DLR new train problems but no word on return.
Service cuts and short trains go on.
Not much of interest in it really. Brief mention of DLR new train problems but no word on return.
Service cuts and short trains go on.
November 26, 2025 at 10:00 PM
Browsing the TfL commissioners report, as you do.
Not much of interest in it really. Brief mention of DLR new train problems but no word on return.
Service cuts and short trains go on.
Not much of interest in it really. Brief mention of DLR new train problems but no word on return.
Service cuts and short trains go on.
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Giving so much heads up of Right to Buy changes last year was stupid.
Not only did it lead to a flood of applicants - more than under 14 years under the Tories - but will see more lost than new council homes built over this Parliament.
Further loss as councils needed extra temp staff to process
Not only did it lead to a flood of applicants - more than under 14 years under the Tories - but will see more lost than new council homes built over this Parliament.
Further loss as councils needed extra temp staff to process
November 25, 2025 at 8:03 PM
Giving so much heads up of Right to Buy changes last year was stupid.
Not only did it lead to a flood of applicants - more than under 14 years under the Tories - but will see more lost than new council homes built over this Parliament.
Further loss as councils needed extra temp staff to process
Not only did it lead to a flood of applicants - more than under 14 years under the Tories - but will see more lost than new council homes built over this Parliament.
Further loss as councils needed extra temp staff to process
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0.2% growth in productivity over five years from "AI".
That's your revolution, lads, really?
The sort of blip that could be reversed by a particularly rainy bank holiday.
That's your revolution, lads, really?
The sort of blip that could be reversed by a particularly rainy bank holiday.
Anyway, tech-wise, AI will have a "positive effect on productivity growth", the OBR say, with a 0.2 percentage point impact in five years
November 26, 2025 at 12:27 PM
0.2% growth in productivity over five years from "AI".
That's your revolution, lads, really?
The sort of blip that could be reversed by a particularly rainy bank holiday.
That's your revolution, lads, really?
The sort of blip that could be reversed by a particularly rainy bank holiday.
Giving so much heads up of Right to Buy changes last year was stupid.
Not only did it lead to a flood of applicants - more than under 14 years under the Tories - but will see more lost than new council homes built over this Parliament.
Further loss as councils needed extra temp staff to process
Not only did it lead to a flood of applicants - more than under 14 years under the Tories - but will see more lost than new council homes built over this Parliament.
Further loss as councils needed extra temp staff to process
November 25, 2025 at 8:03 PM
Giving so much heads up of Right to Buy changes last year was stupid.
Not only did it lead to a flood of applicants - more than under 14 years under the Tories - but will see more lost than new council homes built over this Parliament.
Further loss as councils needed extra temp staff to process
Not only did it lead to a flood of applicants - more than under 14 years under the Tories - but will see more lost than new council homes built over this Parliament.
Further loss as councils needed extra temp staff to process
Struck by how many seem to support Thamesmead DLR plan as it "improves cross-river links" but don't seem to know the areas either side at all, as it links Thamesmead pretty much to nowhere of much use.
If it went to Barking with tube lines, c2c etc? Great.
A meandering route through Beckton?
If it went to Barking with tube lines, c2c etc? Great.
A meandering route through Beckton?
November 25, 2025 at 7:11 PM
Struck by how many seem to support Thamesmead DLR plan as it "improves cross-river links" but don't seem to know the areas either side at all, as it links Thamesmead pretty much to nowhere of much use.
If it went to Barking with tube lines, c2c etc? Great.
A meandering route through Beckton?
If it went to Barking with tube lines, c2c etc? Great.
A meandering route through Beckton?
Given how big pressures on healthcare now are in Woolwich due to new housing and population growth (as seen in the council's own report this is taken from) it's impressive GLLaB again manage to secure more S106 revenue.
November 25, 2025 at 6:22 PM
Given how big pressures on healthcare now are in Woolwich due to new housing and population growth (as seen in the council's own report this is taken from) it's impressive GLLaB again manage to secure more S106 revenue.
Some odd things in a report for major Woolwich development.
It notes how limited GP provision is in the area. 1 GP: 2,718 patients (over capacity by 918 patients) before new builds approved
Yet Greenwich allocates low Section 106 as Greenwich planners state NHS requested limited amount.
It notes how limited GP provision is in the area. 1 GP: 2,718 patients (over capacity by 918 patients) before new builds approved
Yet Greenwich allocates low Section 106 as Greenwich planners state NHS requested limited amount.
November 25, 2025 at 5:42 PM
Some odd things in a report for major Woolwich development.
It notes how limited GP provision is in the area. 1 GP: 2,718 patients (over capacity by 918 patients) before new builds approved
Yet Greenwich allocates low Section 106 as Greenwich planners state NHS requested limited amount.
It notes how limited GP provision is in the area. 1 GP: 2,718 patients (over capacity by 918 patients) before new builds approved
Yet Greenwich allocates low Section 106 as Greenwich planners state NHS requested limited amount.