My very favorite part of the podcast was when you mentioned wanting to see more data about what instruction is actually occurring most often in schools. There is so much unknown! I would love to see Dr. Otten’s study with middle/high school teachers replicated with elementary schools.

Using manipulatives, visuals, and precise language to support conceptual understanding seems to be supported in both SPED and Math Ed spaces (from my limited view and experience as a PhD student).

I think there is a lot more agreement about the balance of conceptual/procedural than was characterized in the podcast. I interpret that page on the SoM website as emphasizing the importance of both- not a claim that procedures will result in conceptual understanding.