And to you enjoy your , like I said not apologising for it was just something I thought was interesting as you said when you played fighting was more acceptable.... 🍺

I am not saying it's acceptable, I fully support the straight red and whatever comes his way, you put your hand anywhere there you accept the consequences, all I am saying is that if it was still like the 90's where boxing was part of the game this whole incident plays out differently....

It's all about the pushing if you let them fight man throws a punch Eben punches back, all over red rover, players these days don't do that you don't punch you grab jerseys push players faces, everything but punch. So my point is all pushing and shoving this ends up in the mess it's in

Could argue it is a by product of the fact it's all hand bags and players don't punch anymore. If this was old days and no jersey grabbing I have a feeling no gouge...

WR/Refs at the moment:

Well yeah we can question why he needed to even have his hand there and by putting his hand anywhere near there he was always in danger, deliberate or not the red was valid...but I just questioned everyone assuming intent.

You are pushing someone in the face with three other people hanging off you, and in this day and age and that openly? I dunno maybe I am an optimist

Is there anything to review?

Am I the only one who thinks it was remotely accidental?

SAn's have started calling him SFM, which I think maybe a play on a radio station in SA called 5FM.. not because it's hard to pronounce

Will do.

Cardiff here I come 🎊🎉

I am available in Cardiff on 27 Nov

Thought they could trick us into batting last by giving us a 300 run lead but we weren't born yesterday.