Yes 100%!! Children are the most prototypical language learners in RL, which makes their cognitive constraints & learning biases super relevant for cultural evolution. We should replicate adult findings with children in order to validate / understand them better, e.g., share.google/6oq9RqdIzciR...

Absolutely 🙈🥲

Haha fair enough, no worries! 😊 I think the important take-home message is that we all share Lauren's frustration that knowledge from one domain is often not easily transferred and/or recognized by folks in another domain. Hopefully this paper helps to build better bridges between our communities!

Indeed. This is (sadly) not as entrenched in developmental psychology, formal linguistics, and even in the EvoLang community. We tried to do justice to scholars who have been arguing this for years by presenting their arguments in opposition to these misconceptions. See also
bsky.app/profile/limo...

Our goal was therefore to engage with the classic & contemporary arguments given by folks in the child-innovator camp, specifically by reviewing (and crediting!) all those who worked hard to dispute their claims over the years. Hope that gives some clarity, alongside the obvious press release 'buzz'

Indeed, in cases where the field is split it's always hard to strike a balance between "this is novel, pay attention" to "this is trivial and known". While many of our own-crowd luckily share our position, many others sadly don't (inc non-experts and the public, who often believe this misconception)

Did you see it got updated? Now all the info is available :)

Uhh will you be joining next year?? 😊 I think the local organizers are still working on this, but tbh I'm not sure (I couldn't be a part of the scientific committee this year, sadly). Perhaps @glupyan.bsky.social has more info? :)

In the field of language evolution, this would be achieved by experimental semiotics (communication games). See review here: osf.io/preprints/os...