are you against rape because it “harms a species chance for survival”? are you so fucking blind you cant see the direct victim of rape? can you not understand how “species” is an abstrate concept but an individual is someone who is actually capable of being harmed and experiencing suffering?

you can care about both.
“i’m not priviledged enough to care more about black people than white people”
“i’m not priviledged enough to care more about women than men”
“i’m not priviledged enough to care more about indigenous than portuguese”
basic respect doesnt come from a position of priviledge

my tone doesnt matter as long as you keep digging for excuses. i say we should respect animals and you come with a different excuse not to everytime. i know when i’m wasting my time. i cant teach you to care.

i’m gonna stop here because you are clearly dumb as hell and whatever excuse you come up with has already been addressed millions of times

murder and rape directly harm someone who was murdered and rape. individuals who are victims of actions.

i’m not arguing if it is healthier or not. i’m saying exploiting someone is immoral. it is very healthy for an ethnical group to enslave another group to do manual labor, but thats not a moral justification.

ok, now i seesee that you started getting into the excuses and fallacies realm: this is an appeal to nature fallacy. just becaue other animals do so, doesn’t mean we should do so. other animals also kill within their own species, rape and commit infanticide, should we do that because they do?

and that goes beyond any impact on the market. being vegan when animal exploitation is normalized is no different than being anti-racist when human slavery is normalized. you dont have to expect societal change to stand up for the right thing and reject commodifying others

you clearly dont understand what veganism is, thats why you conflate it with consumer activity and climate change. plot twist: it’s not. it’s an ethical stance against animal exploitation. your confusion is also why you are talking about meat when we are talking about animal exploitation

ok, next time a farm is raided or a lab is burned to the ground lets make sure we leave some brochures behind