Putin had 'rather sinister looking eyes' and said: ‘It’s the duty of people like you to stand between the terrorist and their victim. And you failed.’
"So it wasn’t a successful meeting," Eliza Manningham-Buller recalls.
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Thanks George for the comments. And I will definitely pass that on to Mr McCloskey…….

Thanks for enjoying the podcast! The US version of the book is not out till January so you may have to hang on a little!

I also get the chance to reveal a small clandestine mission of my own. The first two episodes are out now for everyone but if you want to binge all 6 (!) then we've just launched the 'The Declassified club' where early access is one of the many benefits. therestisclassified.supportingcast.fm

Snowden's actions left a lasting legacy inl the relationship between citizens, governments and tech companies. And his own journey ends up in Moscow.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pAI...

His intelligence helped the West understand the paranoia in Moscow at a dangerous time in the 1980s. There was a risk of unintended conflict and Gordievsky's intelligence helped both Thatcher and Reagan take a more nuanced approach. He would later meet Reagan in the Oval Office

I was fortunate enough to get to know him over the years and talk to him about his remarkable life. He did not decide to betray the KGB for money or out of petty grievance but from a deep seated belief that he did not want to serve what he saw as a 'criminal' regime.