Trump cant end the war by pleasing Putin. So it's simple it will not end. So a plan B is very much needed.

Vi er vel allerede på det punkt nu. Er måske bare ikke gået op for alle. Når Trump bare begynder at forære dele af Europa væk så burde alle vågne lidt op ?

Think you are right. Thats why Rubio is not there. He doesnt want to be part of that. They try to sell Ukraine to Russia. Trump said himself.

Its all a show to please Trump. Sad

He looks like a person that just want to leave. Confronted with reality is too difficult.

Not surprised

I think Ukraine would have been better off saying ceasefire before any peace talks. Im a bit afraid that by accepting this format of "capitulation plan" new bad points will be added. Slowly putting Ukraine in a place where they lose much more than is really fair deal. I practice starting a new war.