The Trump regime wants Canada to fall by economic pressure. If Trump can no longer bully world trade with tariff threats, he will shift back to one of his other goals - increasing US territory.
The Trump regime wants Canada to fall by economic pressure. If Trump can no longer bully world trade with tariff threats, he will shift back to one of his other goals - increasing US territory.
In that scenario, Canada could become a tool used by Trump and his trade team - If you trade with Canada, a country we heavily tariff for national security reasons, we will not trade with you.
In that scenario, Canada could become a tool used by Trump and his trade team - If you trade with Canada, a country we heavily tariff for national security reasons, we will not trade with you.
Yes, there could still be global moves to circumvent the US based on instability, but the recent Democrat wins, coupled with no more tariffs for most countries, could change everything.
Yes, there could still be global moves to circumvent the US based on instability, but the recent Democrat wins, coupled with no more tariffs for most countries, could change everything.
Being nearly alone as a US tariffed nation could devastate us. The trade deals Carney is pursuing would no longer be as urgent once business returns to relative normal, or a new normal where Canada is sidelined, for the rest of the world.
Being nearly alone as a US tariffed nation could devastate us. The trade deals Carney is pursuing would no longer be as urgent once business returns to relative normal, or a new normal where Canada is sidelined, for the rest of the world.
Only the non-CUSMA compliant tariffs would fall, the rest, the damaging ones, are based on a separate issue and would still be legal. That would leave Canada as one of the few countries facing massive tariffs against our key exports to our largest customer.
Only the non-CUSMA compliant tariffs would fall, the rest, the damaging ones, are based on a separate issue and would still be legal. That would leave Canada as one of the few countries facing massive tariffs against our key exports to our largest customer.
The Carney LPC are centrists with some VERY conservative-friendly policies. I don't love it, or even like it, but right now Carney is the only party leader fit for the job.
One vote gained, two to go. The minority government could become a majority one. Strategize wisely NDP/Green/Bloc.
The Carney LPC are centrists with some VERY conservative-friendly policies. I don't love it, or even like it, but right now Carney is the only party leader fit for the job.
One vote gained, two to go. The minority government could become a majority one. Strategize wisely NDP/Green/Bloc.
Many of us leftist Canadians voted Liberal out of fear of a CPC win, but also because we'd been left with no political home. Our progressive or socialist-leaning parties floundered and failed to offer us leaders to defend Canada globally. Give us Mamdani types, and we will vote accordingly.
Many of us leftist Canadians voted Liberal out of fear of a CPC win, but also because we'd been left with no political home. Our progressive or socialist-leaning parties floundered and failed to offer us leaders to defend Canada globally. Give us Mamdani types, and we will vote accordingly.
All I want is for sense to prevail and for five out of the NDP, Green, Bloc, and remaining sane CPC to support some version of the Libs terrible budget. Canada can't afford to trade Carney for Poilievre.
Oh, and for the PM's office to say Trump is full of shit and Reagan was a free-trader.
All I want is for sense to prevail and for five out of the NDP, Green, Bloc, and remaining sane CPC to support some version of the Libs terrible budget. Canada can't afford to trade Carney for Poilievre.
Oh, and for the PM's office to say Trump is full of shit and Reagan was a free-trader.
I wouldn't vote Green because, well, that's basically not voting as they zero chance in 99% of ridings. I mean, Elizabeth May is great and all, but why vote-split on the left for a party that can't win and isn't 100% aligned with my views?
I wouldn't vote Green because, well, that's basically not voting as they zero chance in 99% of ridings. I mean, Elizabeth May is great and all, but why vote-split on the left for a party that can't win and isn't 100% aligned with my views?
I wouldn't vote NDP as they're a shadow of the party I remember and in no way prepared to lead anything. The CPC are socially conservative, anti-science, anti-immigration, anti-environment, anti-bilingualism, anti-everything uniquely Canadian Trumpy fascists, so no.
I wouldn't vote NDP as they're a shadow of the party I remember and in no way prepared to lead anything. The CPC are socially conservative, anti-science, anti-immigration, anti-environment, anti-bilingualism, anti-everything uniquely Canadian Trumpy fascists, so no.
With a no confidence vote likelihood sitting around 60%, I don't know what to do if the government collapses. I don't want to vote Liberal as I consider too much of their platform abhorrent, but I feel we need Carney.
With a no confidence vote likelihood sitting around 60%, I don't know what to do if the government collapses. I don't want to vote Liberal as I consider too much of their platform abhorrent, but I feel we need Carney.
None of the other party leaders have his economic experience, or really any valuable global experience, but the Libs normalize Trump far too much and allow him to portray them as allies when the US regime is well aware Canadians do not want a pushover or a Trump pal as PM.
None of the other party leaders have his economic experience, or really any valuable global experience, but the Libs normalize Trump far too much and allow him to portray them as allies when the US regime is well aware Canadians do not want a pushover or a Trump pal as PM.
Why do the Libs let Trump talk like this? Most Canadians are over the "trade and security" deal bullshit - we're at the Fuck Trump stage now.
I don't like these centre-right Liberals who have rolled back from Trudeau's more progressive stance, but Carney is the best option we have as PM.
Why do the Libs let Trump talk like this? Most Canadians are over the "trade and security" deal bullshit - we're at the Fuck Trump stage now.
I don't like these centre-right Liberals who have rolled back from Trudeau's more progressive stance, but Carney is the best option we have as PM.
The LPC, NDP and Bloc are all on the centre left to leftist side of the spectrum while the CPC is rightwing. Is it worth it to plunge Canada into step with Trump's US regime? The majority of Canadians voted for one of the left-leaning parties. Get your shit together, NDP and Bloc!
The LPC, NDP and Bloc are all on the centre left to leftist side of the spectrum while the CPC is rightwing. Is it worth it to plunge Canada into step with Trump's US regime? The majority of Canadians voted for one of the left-leaning parties. Get your shit together, NDP and Bloc!
If the NDP decide to follow the Bloc and the CPC in not supporting the budget, we will have another federal election. The MAGA-aligned CPC is set to win if that happens.
FFS, if my NDP collapses a Lib minority government AGAIN, at this critical moment, I will never forgive them.
If the NDP decide to follow the Bloc and the CPC in not supporting the budget, we will have another federal election. The MAGA-aligned CPC is set to win if that happens.
FFS, if my NDP collapses a Lib minority government AGAIN, at this critical moment, I will never forgive them.
A CPC led coalition with either the Bloc or NDP is unlikely, which would mean a second federal election in under a year.
Polls say Poilievre's MAGA-aligned rightwing CPC would win a clear majority, giving them 4-5 years of secure hold on Canada. We may be very, very fucked.
A CPC led coalition with either the Bloc or NDP is unlikely, which would mean a second federal election in under a year.
Polls say Poilievre's MAGA-aligned rightwing CPC would win a clear majority, giving them 4-5 years of secure hold on Canada. We may be very, very fucked.
I think - Hope I'm wrong! - a budget vote failure means PM Carney would need to step down. After that, the opposition parties have the chance to form a coalition to govern, which means the CPC would need to get either the Bloc or the NDP, both further left than the Libs, to support them.
I think - Hope I'm wrong! - a budget vote failure means PM Carney would need to step down. After that, the opposition parties have the chance to form a coalition to govern, which means the CPC would need to get either the Bloc or the NDP, both further left than the Libs, to support them.
Back to now:
Caney's Libs are MUCH further right than Trudeau's were, and they seem unlikely to bend to NDP demands since they've already dismissed the not-unreasonable Bloc's requests.
The CPC wants a budget similar to Trump's, which is also a non-starter with the Libs. This is dangerous.
Back to now:
Caney's Libs are MUCH further right than Trudeau's were, and they seem unlikely to bend to NDP demands since they've already dismissed the not-unreasonable Bloc's requests.
The CPC wants a budget similar to Trump's, which is also a non-starter with the Libs. This is dangerous.
The NDP did this when the rightwing CPC had a massive lead over everyone, an idiotic move that cost them official party status as many NDP folks, like me, voted Lib to limit vote splitting.
(Longtime NDP - socialist here - b/c they are the closest viable party to my politics)
The NDP did this when the rightwing CPC had a massive lead over everyone, an idiotic move that cost them official party status as many NDP folks, like me, voted Lib to limit vote splitting.
(Longtime NDP - socialist here - b/c they are the closest viable party to my politics)
This is why I was upset that we ended up with a minority Liberal win.
Many on the left, some with influential platforms, wanted a minority as it gives the NDP leverage, but the NDP threw us into the last federal election when they refused to keep supporting the Liberals.
This is why I was upset that we ended up with a minority Liberal win.
Many on the left, some with influential platforms, wanted a minority as it gives the NDP leverage, but the NDP threw us into the last federal election when they refused to keep supporting the Liberals.