But it goes to show how much has changed. Back then you had a bunch of straight-identified cis women who viewed sexuality as a binary. Modern queer people have nowhere near the same need to destroy the a woman for their fantasy to work, can even find a place for her in it.

That's a big part of the problem. It's not just people hating Relena for misogyny's sake. It's that in a show as thoroughly yaoi-baited as Wing, Heero-Relena is a shockingly convincing ship and was (to 2000's yaoi fandom) an obstacle to Heero/Duo/Trowa, et all.

yep. also really can't overstate how much nuzzi is very much the product of an environment that rewards amoral ambition and frowns on people who sincerely believe anything

I stopped using 4Chan in 2014, luckily before GG started, because someone started a thread on /v/ with 500 post titled, "These are the girlfriends of the Super Best Friends. Discuss."

And I knew at that moment, I was mentally older than all these children and I needed to get out of there.

Like I know everyone knows 1-1, but it looks like this for me and that is strangely alienating

I think one of the things I've found so frequently strange is the way that my own nostalgia for the NES Mario games is so quietly off because I played them as part of Super Mario Allstars, so the visuals aren't for the same thing that the entirety of gaming culture clings to.