ᛕᎥᕼᗷᗴᖇᑎᗴ丅Ꭵᑕᔕ
@kihbernetics.bsky.social
The art and science of #dynamical (non-trivial) systems that grow, learn, and generate #complexity. Integrating the work of Shannon, Ashby, Maturana and other thinkers in a theory that brings forth the original promise of #cybernetics and #systems_thinking
Pinned
ᛕᎥᕼᗷᗴᖇᑎᗴ丅Ꭵᑕᔕ
@kihbernetics.bsky.social
· Dec 30
1️⃣ Kihbernetic system
2️⃣ basic processes, a recursive Autopoiesis, and a linear Allopoiesis, distributed in
3️⃣ control levels Regulation, Control, and Guidance, using
4️⃣ variables Input, Output, Information, and Knowledge connecting
5️⃣ functions, Reaction, Perception, Integration Prediction, and Control
2️⃣ basic processes, a recursive Autopoiesis, and a linear Allopoiesis, distributed in
3️⃣ control levels Regulation, Control, and Guidance, using
4️⃣ variables Input, Output, Information, and Knowledge connecting
5️⃣ functions, Reaction, Perception, Integration Prediction, and Control
How can you fail to retain this kind of user ⁉️@bsky.app❓
November 3, 2025 at 4:02 PM
How can you fail to retain this kind of user ⁉️@bsky.app❓
#Reasoning IS #Computation, but not all computation is reasoning.
#Life started and maintains itself quite well without any of it.
#Life started and maintains itself quite well without any of it.
October 25, 2025 at 10:43 PM
#Reasoning IS #Computation, but not all computation is reasoning.
#Life started and maintains itself quite well without any of it.
#Life started and maintains itself quite well without any of it.
But on the current US government gutting USAID under the direction of his fellow oligarch, not a peep?
Why is it that all those rich people are very keen to tell others what the "right" thing to do is instead of fixing things in their fiefdom first?
Why is it that all those rich people are very keen to tell others what the "right" thing to do is instead of fixing things in their fiefdom first?
Dousa Responds to Gates' Criticism on Sweden's Aid Budget Shift | Sweden Herald
Sweden reduces the aid budget and directs more money to Ukraine and its own defense
swedenherald.com
October 4, 2025 at 9:09 PM
But on the current US government gutting USAID under the direction of his fellow oligarch, not a peep?
Why is it that all those rich people are very keen to tell others what the "right" thing to do is instead of fixing things in their fiefdom first?
Why is it that all those rich people are very keen to tell others what the "right" thing to do is instead of fixing things in their fiefdom first?
Social networks are incredibly important for democracy. The US example shows they are the only thing that can stop a society from sliding into fascism.
It is interesting to see how not even "X" with all its trolls, bots, skewed algorithms, and a demonstrably fascist owner can suppress the real truth
It is interesting to see how not even "X" with all its trolls, bots, skewed algorithms, and a demonstrably fascist owner can suppress the real truth
President Macron: “Europeans, let's wake up!
We have been incredibly naive in entrusting our democratic space to social networks.”
defenddemocracy.eu/macron-democ...
We have been incredibly naive in entrusting our democratic space to social networks.”
defenddemocracy.eu/macron-democ...
October 4, 2025 at 3:57 PM
Social networks are incredibly important for democracy. The US example shows they are the only thing that can stop a society from sliding into fascism.
It is interesting to see how not even "X" with all its trolls, bots, skewed algorithms, and a demonstrably fascist owner can suppress the real truth
It is interesting to see how not even "X" with all its trolls, bots, skewed algorithms, and a demonstrably fascist owner can suppress the real truth
🫳🎤
The Democrats should "bargain" with the Republicans and say that they will give up fighting for healthcare for undocumented migrants if the Republicans agree to extend the ACA and Medicaid for citizens.
October 2, 2025 at 2:23 AM
🫳🎤
"Cogito, ergo sum,"-"I think, therefore I am," is a foundational philosophical statement by René Descartes about the human condition.
No other animal or living thing has shown a similar level of awareness about their own "existential" conditions, and only a few can be said to have a mind.
Forget AI.
No other animal or living thing has shown a similar level of awareness about their own "existential" conditions, and only a few can be said to have a mind.
Forget AI.
September 21, 2025 at 4:10 AM
"Cogito, ergo sum,"-"I think, therefore I am," is a foundational philosophical statement by René Descartes about the human condition.
No other animal or living thing has shown a similar level of awareness about their own "existential" conditions, and only a few can be said to have a mind.
Forget AI.
No other animal or living thing has shown a similar level of awareness about their own "existential" conditions, and only a few can be said to have a mind.
Forget AI.
Jackson's Knowledge Argument is invalid because knowledge comes from #experience.
While confined within the room, Mary's experience from "reading books and watching lectures on a black-and-white TV monitor" wasn't "the complete physical truth of colour vision" which includes the experience of color.
While confined within the room, Mary's experience from "reading books and watching lectures on a black-and-white TV monitor" wasn't "the complete physical truth of colour vision" which includes the experience of color.
September 21, 2025 at 3:57 AM
Jackson's Knowledge Argument is invalid because knowledge comes from #experience.
While confined within the room, Mary's experience from "reading books and watching lectures on a black-and-white TV monitor" wasn't "the complete physical truth of colour vision" which includes the experience of color.
While confined within the room, Mary's experience from "reading books and watching lectures on a black-and-white TV monitor" wasn't "the complete physical truth of colour vision" which includes the experience of color.
An excerpt from Howard Pattee's "The Physical Basis and Origin of Hierarchical Control."
His work should be required reading for anyone who wants to debate the origins of life, cognition and consciousness, free will vs. determinism, or #complexity in general.
link.springer.com/chapter/10.1...
His work should be required reading for anyone who wants to debate the origins of life, cognition and consciousness, free will vs. determinism, or #complexity in general.
link.springer.com/chapter/10.1...
September 4, 2025 at 3:00 PM
An excerpt from Howard Pattee's "The Physical Basis and Origin of Hierarchical Control."
His work should be required reading for anyone who wants to debate the origins of life, cognition and consciousness, free will vs. determinism, or #complexity in general.
link.springer.com/chapter/10.1...
His work should be required reading for anyone who wants to debate the origins of life, cognition and consciousness, free will vs. determinism, or #complexity in general.
link.springer.com/chapter/10.1...
Google Gemini's key takeaways from:
"Beyond the extended mind: new arguments for extensive enactivism"
by Sganzerla, Hutto & Kirchhoff
link.springer.com/article/10.1...
Accurate?
"Beyond the extended mind: new arguments for extensive enactivism"
by Sganzerla, Hutto & Kirchhoff
link.springer.com/article/10.1...
Accurate?
August 31, 2025 at 5:43 PM
Google Gemini's key takeaways from:
"Beyond the extended mind: new arguments for extensive enactivism"
by Sganzerla, Hutto & Kirchhoff
link.springer.com/article/10.1...
Accurate?
"Beyond the extended mind: new arguments for extensive enactivism"
by Sganzerla, Hutto & Kirchhoff
link.springer.com/article/10.1...
Accurate?
This difference between the #physical (operational) and #symbolic (functional) is often overlooked in most contemporary discourses about #life and #mind (e.g. #TAME)
Not *all* life is #teleology.
Ezequiel Di Paolo
Autopoiesis, Adaptivity, Teleology, Agency-2005
www.researchgate.net/publication/...
Not *all* life is #teleology.
Ezequiel Di Paolo
Autopoiesis, Adaptivity, Teleology, Agency-2005
www.researchgate.net/publication/...
August 20, 2025 at 3:32 PM
This difference between the #physical (operational) and #symbolic (functional) is often overlooked in most contemporary discourses about #life and #mind (e.g. #TAME)
Not *all* life is #teleology.
Ezequiel Di Paolo
Autopoiesis, Adaptivity, Teleology, Agency-2005
www.researchgate.net/publication/...
Not *all* life is #teleology.
Ezequiel Di Paolo
Autopoiesis, Adaptivity, Teleology, Agency-2005
www.researchgate.net/publication/...
Matematician Louis Kauffman explains Varela’s work on extending Spencer-Brown's "Laws of Form" in the "Calculus of Self-Reference" and "The Arithmetic of Closure," and why the #circularity in #operational_closure of a #system_whole is necessary for making a #distinction.
metanoia.si/2021/03/28/o...
metanoia.si/2021/03/28/o...
August 19, 2025 at 3:12 PM
Matematician Louis Kauffman explains Varela’s work on extending Spencer-Brown's "Laws of Form" in the "Calculus of Self-Reference" and "The Arithmetic of Closure," and why the #circularity in #operational_closure of a #system_whole is necessary for making a #distinction.
metanoia.si/2021/03/28/o...
metanoia.si/2021/03/28/o...
This makes perfect sense with the caveat that "silicon hardware" with a suitable "software" will not be able to approach anywhere near the structural and functional complexity and diversity attained by "biological wetware."
In A Signal Through Time, I argue that the emergence of consciousness may be the natural outcome of sufficiently complex systems, whether rooted in biology or silicon.
#ASignalThroughTime #emergingtech #thesignaldispatch #aiconsciousness #ArtificialIntelligence
#ASignalThroughTime #emergingtech #thesignaldispatch #aiconsciousness #ArtificialIntelligence
August 16, 2025 at 11:42 PM
This makes perfect sense with the caveat that "silicon hardware" with a suitable "software" will not be able to approach anywhere near the structural and functional complexity and diversity attained by "biological wetware."
The third "era" of Cybernetics "to promote the evolution of certain social systems in a preferred direction," as Stuart Umpleby envisions in this article from 1997, seems to have never materialized.
We returned instead to the 70s and the mechanization of the mind
www.researchgate.net/publication/...
We returned instead to the 70s and the mechanization of the mind
www.researchgate.net/publication/...
August 12, 2025 at 12:02 AM
The third "era" of Cybernetics "to promote the evolution of certain social systems in a preferred direction," as Stuart Umpleby envisions in this article from 1997, seems to have never materialized.
We returned instead to the 70s and the mechanization of the mind
www.researchgate.net/publication/...
We returned instead to the 70s and the mechanization of the mind
www.researchgate.net/publication/...
Analog "computers" should *not* be able to emulate "Turing machines." At their base, they work with continuous variables in time, not sequences of discrete symbols.
However, the analog brain can do so even if its primary function is #control, not #computation.
From
bibliotekanauki.pl/articles/764...
However, the analog brain can do so even if its primary function is #control, not #computation.
From
bibliotekanauki.pl/articles/764...
August 10, 2025 at 8:08 PM
Analog "computers" should *not* be able to emulate "Turing machines." At their base, they work with continuous variables in time, not sequences of discrete symbols.
However, the analog brain can do so even if its primary function is #control, not #computation.
From
bibliotekanauki.pl/articles/764...
However, the analog brain can do so even if its primary function is #control, not #computation.
From
bibliotekanauki.pl/articles/764...
Reposted by ᛕᎥᕼᗷᗴᖇᑎᗴ丅Ꭵᑕᔕ
The problem from the start was the flippant socializing of the word "information" from a theory about #communication signals.
People don't want to believe that these faux pas can percolate, accumulate, & propagate throughout the community, regardless of 'rank held.'
1 clear consequence: redundancy
People don't want to believe that these faux pas can percolate, accumulate, & propagate throughout the community, regardless of 'rank held.'
1 clear consequence: redundancy
Many physicists, from John Wheeler to Google Deepmind's Demis Hassabis, have argued that reality is fundamentally made of information. | iai.tv/articles/the...
Wheeler called this "it from bit". But this is mistaken, argues physicist and philosopher of science, Gregg Jaeger.
#philsky #philsci ⚛️ 🧪
Wheeler called this "it from bit". But this is mistaken, argues physicist and philosopher of science, Gregg Jaeger.
#philsky #philsci ⚛️ 🧪
The universe is not made of information | Gregg Jaeger
Delve into the debate on whether reality is constructed from information. This article examines Wheeler's theories and argues against the notion of information as substance.
iai.tv
August 5, 2025 at 2:05 PM
The problem from the start was the flippant socializing of the word "information" from a theory about #communication signals.
People don't want to believe that these faux pas can percolate, accumulate, & propagate throughout the community, regardless of 'rank held.'
1 clear consequence: redundancy
People don't want to believe that these faux pas can percolate, accumulate, & propagate throughout the community, regardless of 'rank held.'
1 clear consequence: redundancy
An introduction Ranulph Glanville gave during the 2013 conference of the American Society for Cybernetics in Bolton, UK, on his *Theory of Objects*, developed first in his 1975 thesis about "a Cybernetic Epistemology of Observation"👇
bura.brunel.ac.uk/bitstream/24...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tACF...
bura.brunel.ac.uk/bitstream/24...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tACF...
August 4, 2025 at 5:17 PM
An introduction Ranulph Glanville gave during the 2013 conference of the American Society for Cybernetics in Bolton, UK, on his *Theory of Objects*, developed first in his 1975 thesis about "a Cybernetic Epistemology of Observation"👇
bura.brunel.ac.uk/bitstream/24...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tACF...
bura.brunel.ac.uk/bitstream/24...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tACF...
Often forgotten today by modern scientists, plucking things out of a "Platonic space."👇
ojs.unito.it/index.php/ph...
ojs.unito.it/index.php/ph...
August 4, 2025 at 2:22 PM
Often forgotten today by modern scientists, plucking things out of a "Platonic space."👇
ojs.unito.it/index.php/ph...
ojs.unito.it/index.php/ph...
Some particularly good discussions about the true meaning and purpose of #Cybernetics in here:
hanart.press/cybernetics-...
I was particularly impressed with this contribution:
ojs.unito.it/index.php/ph...
Initially found it in another great (and free) source of modern cybernetic thinking in Italian
hanart.press/cybernetics-...
I was particularly impressed with this contribution:
ojs.unito.it/index.php/ph...
Initially found it in another great (and free) source of modern cybernetic thinking in Italian
Cybernetics for the 21st Century Vol.1 - Hanart Press
hanart.press
August 3, 2025 at 3:54 PM
Some particularly good discussions about the true meaning and purpose of #Cybernetics in here:
hanart.press/cybernetics-...
I was particularly impressed with this contribution:
ojs.unito.it/index.php/ph...
Initially found it in another great (and free) source of modern cybernetic thinking in Italian
hanart.press/cybernetics-...
I was particularly impressed with this contribution:
ojs.unito.it/index.php/ph...
Initially found it in another great (and free) source of modern cybernetic thinking in Italian
Does someone have a good answer to the question Jesper Hoffmeyer asks in:
"Semiotic freedom: an emerging force" printed in
Information and the Nature of Reality (From Physics to Metaphysics)
www.cambridge.org/core/books/i...
"Semiotic freedom: an emerging force" printed in
Information and the Nature of Reality (From Physics to Metaphysics)
www.cambridge.org/core/books/i...
July 23, 2025 at 2:58 PM
Does someone have a good answer to the question Jesper Hoffmeyer asks in:
"Semiotic freedom: an emerging force" printed in
Information and the Nature of Reality (From Physics to Metaphysics)
www.cambridge.org/core/books/i...
"Semiotic freedom: an emerging force" printed in
Information and the Nature of Reality (From Physics to Metaphysics)
www.cambridge.org/core/books/i...
So what? He's not enough of a patriot now because he's making money from foreign stocks instead of losing money on domestic stocks?
This may also change after he's done fixing the Canadian economy😀
But then you'll be complaining that he did fix it only to "enrich himself."🙄
Never satisfied, are you?
This may also change after he's done fixing the Canadian economy😀
But then you'll be complaining that he did fix it only to "enrich himself."🙄
Never satisfied, are you?
Out of the 567 entities in Prime Minister Mark Carney’s investment portfolio, we discovered only three are Canadian. Find out more in our exclusive analysis.
buff.ly/meSXF58
#cdnpoli
buff.ly/meSXF58
#cdnpoli
Mark Carney has investments in 567 organizations. Only three are Canadian
The prime minister’s Canadian holdings make up 0.5 per cent of his portfolio.
buff.ly
July 17, 2025 at 2:42 PM
So what? He's not enough of a patriot now because he's making money from foreign stocks instead of losing money on domestic stocks?
This may also change after he's done fixing the Canadian economy😀
But then you'll be complaining that he did fix it only to "enrich himself."🙄
Never satisfied, are you?
This may also change after he's done fixing the Canadian economy😀
But then you'll be complaining that he did fix it only to "enrich himself."🙄
Never satisfied, are you?
"Social #engineering" is a misnomer. It should be called "Social #gardening" because they don't #build something out of raw materials, but rather #cultivate what they are given.
An interesting read on the roots of modern #E/acc engineers' tendency to eliminate the 'uncontrollable' crowds altogether👇
An interesting read on the roots of modern #E/acc engineers' tendency to eliminate the 'uncontrollable' crowds altogether👇
"Right up to the end of his life, Bernays held fast to his belief that leadership would come from an elite, technocratic few who would shape the masses’ reality and thus produce a better society."
Masters of Crowds: The Rise of Mass Social Engineering
A deep history of mass manipulation, from the 1920s through the mid-1970s.
thereader.mitpress.mit.edu
July 17, 2025 at 2:06 AM
"Social #engineering" is a misnomer. It should be called "Social #gardening" because they don't #build something out of raw materials, but rather #cultivate what they are given.
An interesting read on the roots of modern #E/acc engineers' tendency to eliminate the 'uncontrollable' crowds altogether👇
An interesting read on the roots of modern #E/acc engineers' tendency to eliminate the 'uncontrollable' crowds altogether👇
#Consciousness is overrated.😉
👇
WR Ashby - Design for a Brain - The origin of adaptive behaviour (Chapman & Hall 1960)
👇
WR Ashby - Design for a Brain - The origin of adaptive behaviour (Chapman & Hall 1960)
July 1, 2025 at 8:59 PM
#Consciousness is overrated.😉
👇
WR Ashby - Design for a Brain - The origin of adaptive behaviour (Chapman & Hall 1960)
👇
WR Ashby - Design for a Brain - The origin of adaptive behaviour (Chapman & Hall 1960)
When one thinks about how many different things have to go "right" in the "correct" order for life and intelligence to emerge, and how fragile all this is, one may realize that the living is probably not a very common state of matter in the universe.
And here we go. The most promising attempts to define what's life or to distinguish what's alive from what's not, point to thermodynamics.
This is not because statistical physicists are arrogant, but because thermodynamics is a fundamental constrain
5/
royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/...
This is not because statistical physicists are arrogant, but because thermodynamics is a fundamental constrain
5/
royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/...
Fundamental constraints to the logic of living systems | Interface Focus
It has been argued that the historical nature of evolution makes it a highly path-dependent
process. Under this view, the outcome of evolutionary dynamics could have resulted
in organisms with differe...
royalsocietypublishing.org
June 24, 2025 at 3:16 PM
When one thinks about how many different things have to go "right" in the "correct" order for life and intelligence to emerge, and how fragile all this is, one may realize that the living is probably not a very common state of matter in the universe.
Why is there not more discussion in the cognitive sciences about Aron Gurwitsch’s phenomenological "Field Theory of Consciousness?"
journals.openedition.org/hel/3541?lan...
It was never even mentioned in Robert Lawrence Kuhn's (@closertotruth.bsky.social ) comprehensive "Landscape of Consciousness."
journals.openedition.org/hel/3541?lan...
It was never even mentioned in Robert Lawrence Kuhn's (@closertotruth.bsky.social ) comprehensive "Landscape of Consciousness."
June 22, 2025 at 8:48 PM
Why is there not more discussion in the cognitive sciences about Aron Gurwitsch’s phenomenological "Field Theory of Consciousness?"
journals.openedition.org/hel/3541?lan...
It was never even mentioned in Robert Lawrence Kuhn's (@closertotruth.bsky.social ) comprehensive "Landscape of Consciousness."
journals.openedition.org/hel/3541?lan...
It was never even mentioned in Robert Lawrence Kuhn's (@closertotruth.bsky.social ) comprehensive "Landscape of Consciousness."
While reading this paper on emergence in complex systems, I'm once again surprised how people who should know better can talk about this stuff without ever mentioning Howard H. Pattee's Hierarchy Theory🤔
David C. Krakauer, John W. Krakauer, Melanie Mitchell
Large Language Models and Emergence: A Complex Systems Perspective
https://arxiv.org/abs/2506.11135
Large Language Models and Emergence: A Complex Systems Perspective
https://arxiv.org/abs/2506.11135
June 19, 2025 at 7:31 PM
While reading this paper on emergence in complex systems, I'm once again surprised how people who should know better can talk about this stuff without ever mentioning Howard H. Pattee's Hierarchy Theory🤔